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PIP Tribunal upcoming - questions

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I don't know what would happen if you had a panic attack but at least 1 or your parents would be allowed into the room with you for support. All questions need to be answered by you, so they won't ask them anything.

    Tribunals are totally different to assessments and you will be allowed to speak and tell them exactly how your condition/s affect you. You should answer with as much detail as possible. In the room there will be a judge, a DR, a DWP representative could be there too and possible 1 other person.

    A decision can't always be made on the day, if this happens they will write to you with a decision withing  couple of days. Good luck.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    A PIP tribunal hearing panel comprises a judge, a doctor and a disability expert.  A DWP rep might attend but is not part of the panel.

    The Disability Rights Handbook gives a detailed account of appeal hearings procedure, available from Disability Rights UK site.  There is a charge for the Handbook but I found it worth the money.
  • Pippa_AlumniPippa_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,851 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @BrianaL, welcome to the community!

    Thanks for sharing this with us. It sounds as though you're well prepared for your tribunal, and I really hope it goes well. Here is the latest version of the Disability Rights UK Handbook mentioned by Matilda, and you may also like to check out Scope's guidance on appealing DWP decisions. Please do keep us updated and let us know how you get on! 
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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrianaL
    just a thought, does your local library not have a copy or get a copy for you?


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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrianaL,

    Im not sure but I’d have thought in a general guide it still might help with processes, possibly not with new legislations, if that’s the correct word, just might help in a broad guide.

    it was just a thought  :)
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  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    I don't think the advice about appeal hearings would change much.  The current Handbook is 2017/18.  Is that the one the library has?  The new edition is published in May 2018.
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrianaL

    How about eBay? A cheap second hand copy if your library doesn’t have a copy or a download for your computer, if it’s available to do that.


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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrianaL

    hope your book arrives quickly. I might order one too.

    thanks
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    I just ordered the 2016-2017 edition too.

    worth a few pounds, hopefully 
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    @GizmoTiddles,

    its very expensive the new one, I can’t afford that.

    will just make do with the last edition, obviously is just for a guide, but better than nothing 

    thanks
  • GizmoTiddlesGizmoTiddles Member Posts: 129 Pioneering
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    edited April 2018
    £33 was what I saw in the link you posted, sorry didn’t see the consessioms rate.

    will see what this ones like it was only £3 on eBay then if I feel I need it then order the new one
  • GizmoTiddlesGizmoTiddles Member Posts: 129 Pioneering
    No problems @susan48
    I was fought always read the small print
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    This was posted recently by @mikehughescq

    Concentrate wholly on what you were like on the date of claim.

    2) There are no “trick” questions. Tribunals are usually listed 20 minutes apart so, apart from the appeal papers, they need questions which cut across lots of functions. So the car question is brilliant because it indicates grip; mobility; dexterity; the ability to do something repeatedly; concentration and stamina. Instead of thinking negatively about such stuff think about what they’re getting at and your answers will be much better and more detailed. Similar questions include whether you’ve been on holiday recently. It feeds into mobility (getting across an airport); stamina; the ability to cope alone; the need for aids and appliances.

    3) There are no set rules or order for a hearing beyind the requirement that it must be seen to be fair. 

    4) Watch the judge’s pen. All three members may take notes but only the judge writes a record of proceedings. If you don’t want them to miss anything then remember that they can’t write as fast as you can speak, so watch their pen and slow down. Don’t worry about going too slow. They will tell you if you do.

    5) Never interrupt any tribunal member. It is perfectly okay to challenge them provided it’s not rude or aggressive. However, think about whether what you’re challenging them on is directly related to points. If it’s not then better to focus on points. This is especially important because loads of people second guess the demeanour of tribunal members as determining whether they are pro or against and it’s largely nonsense. An aggressive, challenging member may well just be a poor communicator and wholly on your side right up to the point you challenge them etc.

    6) Get yourself a representative and travel to the venue by whatever means makes you feel comfortable. It’s only ever an issue if you don’t explain what you did in full and if doing so contradicts your other evidence in some way for daily living and /or mobility.

    7) Same goes for clothes. You need to wear whatever makes you feel comfortable and relaxed. If you’re not relaxed then the likelihood of you presenting well are much reduced. Dressing down is not a good idea unless that all you can afford. A person who feels naked without make-up or a suit abd tie will similarly be over stressed if they try to pretend they’re in their comfort zone dressing down. 

    8) Other people’s tribunal experience can be valuable but it’s just that. Their experience. If they lost then it’s the tribunal to blame. If they win they everything they did is why they won and what you must do. The truth is usually very much in between.

    9) Know your case. What points are you going for and why. What’s your evidence? “The HCP was a liar” is neither evidence nor a winning strategy. Also, know the appeal papers. What’s where. 

    10) Do not be tempted to claim you’ve worsened since the date of claim. That’s a recipe for a failed appeal and an invitation to make another claim. Even if you have got worse always concentrate on your date of claim and what you were like then.




    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrianaL
    fantastic news, you can now relax
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