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PIP isn't as fair as DLA!

Ladypetal

I used to be on DLA Indefinitely, but recently was switched over to PIP and although I got the same award it's not indefinite, which means I have to go through another stressful assessment etc in another 4 years time even though my spinal condition isn't going to get any better! It seems so unfair - is anyone else in the same boat/have advice?

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Madworld

@Ladypetal From one pip claiment to another consider yourself lucky, the govenment is completely fudged up at the moment. Theres people who cant walk having their claims stopped if you do some research you'll realize how unfair they are being to the disabled right now, theres been more appeals then ever this year its crazy and assessors have been caught out lying. I'm sorry non of this is good news, this can happen to any of us and injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere as martin luther king said but pip doesnt see it that way. All i can do for you is give you some very good advice... ask for permission to record any assessment you have in the future to do this you must ring them before hand and they will let the assessor know, if you do this you wont be kicked of your claim or have any worries of it being reduced and believe me when I say this is happening everywhere. Hope you take this advice.

Maria1971

I am so sorry this is happening to you. My own circumstances that they have refused are unbelievable and I have also heard of others too.
It's about time we took a stand and now I have my voice back I will stand with you.
Life shouldn't be like this and you shouldn't either!

whistles

You haven't been switched over. DLA ended and you were asked to apply for pip. Everyone is having to apply.

@Madworld
I don't think telling a poster that if they record their assessment they won't lose money is safe advice.
In fact that's really scary advice!

It's been suggested that all claims will be recorded in the future, but there was a discussion on here that this isn't going to assist you with getting your claim if the assessor and DM decide not to award you?

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/3755-25-april-2018-update

No timescale for it by the looks of it.

Madworld

@whistles if you intend to prevent any lies being written on your report then its good advice and completely legal as stated on the PIP website. Recording the assessment is completely fine if requested before the assessment, and looking at how many people have been failed this way I think its very good advice. @Maria1971 I agree with you completely and thankyou for your support, I think if we all stand together in this we have more of a chance to stop it happening. Seriously disabled people are having their rights stripped away daily, something must be done. Thankyou both for your response

Ladypetal

Maria1971 said:

I am so sorry this is happening to you. My own circumstances that they have refused are unbelievable and I have also heard of others too.
It's about time we took a stand and now I have my voice back I will stand with you.
Life shouldn't be like this and you shouldn't either!

whistles said:

You haven't been switched over. DLA ended and you were asked to apply for pip. Everyone is having to apply.

@Madworld
I don't think telling a poster that if they record their assessment they won't lose money is safe advice.
In fact that's really scary advice!

It's been suggested that all claims will be recorded in the future, but there was a discussion on here that this isn't going to assist you with getting your claim if the assessor and DM decide not to award you?

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/3755-25-april-2018-update

No timescale for it by the looks of it.

redhead53

you can record but it wont alter the result as its you the acess not your voice

Ladypetal

Thanks guys, I am still on DLA 'til May 9th, then payments will be switched to PIP. (which I obviously had to apply for Whistles). I just wanted to know why PIP hasn't made my award Indefinite (where as DLA system did) and my spinal dis; isn't going to get better alas. Any advice (re the Indefinite part) would be helpful, and good luck to you all too x

whistles

Madworld said:

@whistles if you intend to prevent any lies being written on your report then its good advice and completely legal as stated on the PIP website. Recording the assessment is completely fine if requested before the assessment, and looking at how many people have been failed this way I think its very good advice. @Maria1971 I agree with you completely and thankyou for your support, I think if we all stand together in this we have more of a chance to stop it happening. Seriously disabled people are having their rights stripped away daily, something must be done. Thankyou both for your response

But you have written that people will not lose money.
How can you possibly know that recording it means they keep their PIP at the rates already awarded?
It's an assessment based on how you are at the assessment- include here paperbased evidence.

whistles

Ladypetal said:

Thanks guys, I am still on DLA 'til May 9th, then payments will be switched to PIP. (which I obviously had to apply for Whistles). I just wanted to know why PIP hasn't made my award Indefinite (where as DLA system did) and my spinal dis; isn't going to get better alas. Any advice (re the Indefinite part) would be helpful, and good luck to you all too x

Because it's not DLA. Different benefit different lengths. I think they can award up to ten years.
But if you cast your mind way way back, the original DLA length was short. Mine was and then they lengthened it.
My circumstances might improve/ be the same or get worse by the next assessment.
Yes you spinal issues won't get better, but they are not assessing that, they are assessing descriptors. So if you worsen, you might move to enhanced.

Ladypetal

I don't understand what you mean by descriptors? I am going to get the same amount financially on pip as I did on dla and am already on enhanced too. I just don't think it's fair that I have to reapply again after just 4 years, its just more unneccessary stress that we don't need - Vote Labour!

whistles

If you have the same amount as you were before, I wouldn't be moaning about four years assessments.

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