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Severe disability premium

Hello all, new to the group can anyone one give their knowledge advice and opinion to anyone who is in receipt of severe disability premium which is a top up to esa and what happens when universal credit eventually is rolled out to everyone as the way I understand it and on the turn to us calculator I am actually neatly 200 pound a month worse off and extremely worried for the future. Thanks

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  • JennysDadJennysDad Member Posts: 2,308 Pioneering
    Hello @rrbever and a warm welcome to the community. Good to have you with us.
    I'm not able to advise on benefits issues but we do have specialists here who will get back to you as soon as possible. Please bear with us and stay in touch.
    Warmest best wishes,
    Richard
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  • Laura99Laura99 Member Posts: 62 Courageous
    Hi there.

    I have used three different benefits calculators and they all came up with completely different amounts.

    The one I like best increases my income by £120.00 a week.

    I am not so keen on the one that decreases it by £70.00.

    There are a lot of highly complex rules regarding disability premiums - so many that the good old DWP themselves do not understand them. I have asked six different advisors the same question over the last week and none has given me a definitive answer. 

    All have said that they would get someone else to telephone me. Needless to say, nobody has actually done so.
  • feirfeir Member Posts: 396 Pioneering
    The official online calculators have been useless for years, not sure why they have them and i wouldn't go off what they say at all.
  • Laura99Laura99 Member Posts: 62 Courageous
    You're right. It does bother me that the DWP themselves signpost claimants to the calculators; I suppose it is because they don't know themselves how to calculate benefits so they fob us off with wildly inaccurate misinformation.
  • feirfeir Member Posts: 396 Pioneering
    We used to talk about the calculators on a mums site years ago when they first came out, the official one was the worst every time it seemed. I know i tried the gov one and got more money than it said i would.Maybe this is so we are surprised and happier with the amount, lol.
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,590 Disability Gamechanger
    edited May 2018
    It hasn't been rolled out to everyone, so nobody actually has the answer.
    You would need someone getting the sdp or ep as well as esa and also been migrated over.
    Not everywhere is live yet.

    Personally I actually wouldn't worry yet. There is meant to be some sort of support group like esa sg.
    The earliest for migration is 2019 and depending on your pip review date you still need to receive standard care.

    Let the future arrive and get on with living today. 
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    whistles said:
    It hasn't been rolled out to everyone, so nobody actually has the answer.
    You would need someone getting the sdp or ep as well as esa and also been migrated over.
    Not everywhere is live yet.

    Personally I actually wouldn't worry yet. There is meant to be some sort of support group like esa sg.
    The earliest for migration is 2019 and depending on your pip review date you still need to receive standard care.

    Let the future arrive and get on with living today. 

     This is incorrect, sorry.

    Managed migration hasn't even started for anyone yet. When it does begin, sometime around 2019 for some areas there will be a transitional protection in place so that those currently claiming the premiums will not be any worse off under UC.

    Until this process begins anyone that has a change of circumstances and has to move to UC will lose any premiums they currently claim.
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,590 Disability Gamechanger
    That's what I sort of tried to say.
    Nobody has the answer because migration hasn't happened. 
    Most places will be live but not necessarily full service and that's different again.
    New claims will be UC and not see the premiums. 

    I think the government's 'secret' plan is to discretely remove it off people. 
    Ie a change in circumstances before migration loses the protection.
    How many of us can actually have no change between now and when they " get round" to you.
    Changing your bank- seriously. Is this even legal and what idiot passed it!!! 
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Changing your bank is not classed as a change of circumstances that will prompt a move to Universal Credit. That really would be ridiculous.

    The premiums aren't payable on UC. They will only be payable once managed migration starts and you move across.

    You say no one has the answer.....yes they do because there will be a transitional protection in place once managed migration starts.
    https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Universal-Credit-transitional-protection/What-is-Universal-Credit-transitional-protection

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  • WaylayWaylay Member Posts: 922 Pioneering
    @poppy123456 I wonder how long the transitional protection will last?
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,590 Disability Gamechanger
    And if you read the length of time you receive it for, its until it's been offset against your UC.
    So they are absorbing the premiums. 
    They have thought of everything by waving a carrot in front of us. Whichever you look at it there will be no premiums.
    The cost of living will go up but your benefit won't until the transitional money is 0.

    The website says
    "If you have an increase in your Universal Credit entitlement, perhaps due to a fall in income, the birth of a child, or because of an annual increase in the rates for Universal Credit, the increase in your Universal Credit entitlement will be offset by a reduction in your transitional protection amount. This will continue until your transitional protection amount is reduced to nothing" 



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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,590 Disability Gamechanger
    Sausages fingers.
    Should read homes not banks.  :)
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