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Moving from DLA to PIP - help

TeddieTeddie Member Posts: 3 Listener
edited May 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
i m looking forward to hearing about pip. 
I have just been told to apply. So with a long history of chronic pain (back problems fibro and degenerative disc disease with arthritis)and depression I ve learned to cope as best as I can. 
I m on DLA now and am told it’s a totally different method of testing. 
Can anyone tell me their experiences? Thanks x

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  • JennysDadJennysDad Member Posts: 2,308 Pioneering
    Hello @Teddie and a warm welcome to the community. Good to have you with us.
    Not a benefits advisor myself, I can't say too much about this, but we do have qualified and experienced people here who will be able to advise you and they will be in touch.
    A very good starting point would be to look at the 'Talk about PIP/DLA' thread, where you will find discussions, advice and resources to help you. Perhaps you could have a look at those and come back to us with any questions?
    Warmest best wishes to you,
    Richard
    @JennysDad
  • TeddieTeddie Member Posts: 3 Listener
    Thank you Richard. Always great to be part of a group with similar difficulties. I will have a read at everything. Be in touch soon. 
    Take care. 
    Teddie
  • Sam_AlumniSam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,731 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Teddie
    The CAB have this guidance on moving from DLA to PIP:

    Many people on DLA will qualify for PIP but it isn’t guaranteed. To give yourself the best chance of getting the rate of PIP you need, it’s worth:

    • looking at your DLA claim forms - the PIP claim form is completely different, but some of the details you used in your DLA claim might be helpful
    • trying to get medical evidence of how your condition is affecting you - you can talk to your doctor and any other medical specialists about this
    • keeping a diary of your good and bad days - use our template diary [ 78 kb]to get an idea of what you’ll be assessed on
    • making a list of the details of any aids or appliances you use in your everyday life - you won’t have been asked about this when claiming DLA

    And you might like to read this post from @gingermusic about changing from DLA to PIP.
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • TeddieTeddie Member Posts: 3 Listener
    Thank you Sam, this is helpful. 
    I ll have a good read . 

  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Things to know about PIP

    Get face to face advice from CAB, welfare rights or similar whenever possible

    DLA and PIP use different criteria for awards

    Just because you had DLA indefinately does not guarantee you will qualify for PIP

    When making the initial phone call ask for your DLA to be taken into consideration if applicable

    When you receive your PIP2 form you can ask for an extension of two weeks to complete and return it if need be.

    It is important to understand the points system, descriptors and criteria for an award Have a look at the B&W self test

    http://www.mybenefitsandwork.co.uk/pip/indexxx.php

    PIP is about how your condition affect your functionality. The "HOW"
    Medical evidence is only usefull to explain the "WHY. On its own, medical evidence will not win you an award
    Only send relevant medical evidence. More is not always better. HCP's and DM's will not spend time combing through your edition of War and Peace to find the facts.

    Most claimants will be required to attend a f2f assessment, usually at a centre.

    If you are unable to attend a centre and need a home visit, you will normally require a GP's letter stating explicitly that you cannot attend a centre and why. There must be no ambiguity.

    When you receive an appointment date you can rearrange it once only, you must then attend the new appointment

    Failure to attend will result in your file being returned to the DWP and your claim maybe closed.

    When you do attend the assessment you may take a companion for support.

    Make no special effort, be yourself

    Take your medication as prescribed

    Most people with long term conditions have learned to manage and conceal their condition. On the day you must become "disabled" for the assessor to see the real you, otherwise an incorrect assessment is likely.
    I am in no way suggesting that anyone should put on an act and pretend to be worse than they are, many people are already stressed, but at the same time it will not help if the claimant " Puts on a brave face" as my gran used to say

    If you have a home visit, the assessor is just the same as any visitor , they do not have the right to look around your home.

    If possible have a companion with you

    Keep to your normal routine. If at the appointed time you are normaly still in bed or not dressed, then, if you are comfortable, there is no reason to alter that.

    You decide which room the assessment takes place in
    Assessors may arrive early or late so be ready. Have your ID and medication list to hand.

    The assessor will be observing everything you do from the start, how you sit, stand, walk, handle items such as bags and coats.

    Don't expect them to answer many questions, they have an agenda and will want to stick to it.

    If you have a companion they can take notes.

    After the assessment you should ring the DWP and ask for a copy of the report, but wait for 3-4 days for them to receive it. Do not be fobbed off, you are entitled to it no matter what the phone jockey tells you.

    When you receive the report it will give you an indication of your possible award it is a recommendation only, it is the DM that makes the decision and it may differ.

    When you receive the decision letter, you have a month from the date on the letter to ask for a mandatory reconsideration, no extension is normally given. You can do so by phone and or letter.

    If you have received an award the decision letter will tell you what it is, how much and from when.
    If it is a new claim it will be dated from the day of the first phone call. If a change from DLA then it should be dated the day after your DLA stops. If it is a review then it should be a continuation with any back date if a higher award is given

    Look for both the end date and the "We will contact you after " date. Reviews are usually carried out a year before the end date. Some shorter awards have an end date and you will have to reapply.

    Some useful links

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ment-providers
     
    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/be...nd-carers/pip/

    https://www.rethink.org/resources/p

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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