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marie21
marie21 Member Posts: 13 Connected
New guidance coming into effect this summer means people who are awarded the highest level of support under PIP– and where their needs are expected to stay the same or increase – will receive an ongoing award of PIP with a light touch review every 10 years.

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  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Connected
    edited June 2018
    marie21 said:
    New guidance coming into effect this summer means people who are awarded the highest level of support under PIP– and where their needs are expected to stay the same or increase – will receive an ongoing award of PIP with a light touch review every 10 years.
    As I said on a similar thread - the devil will be in the detail.
    Personally I think that the publicity is over egging the reality.

    Are we saying that for those on Enhanced Care & Mobility will get an automatic 10 year award?

    What I would ask then what has changed? In the past 5 years after 2 assessments/re-assessments I have had that award but only been given a 3 year award - review after 2 years. The 3rd re-assessment reduced my award to 0 points unfortunately then I gave up. 

    Some will still get a 10 year award no doubt about it, but no way will everybody - it goes against the intention of why PIP came about.

    Further the statement - 'most severe health conditions' has yet to be defined. If the DWP provide a list then you can bet your last dollar that it will open up arguments about those who are on the fringes of those particular health conditions - ' he gets it so why can't I' attitude.
  • marie21
    marie21 Member Posts: 13 Connected
    This is a massive step forward though. I am confident this will lead to other changes. I believe it's awarded for a long term illness or disability then it should be for life. No disability or long term illness will go away. Maybe the next one's in office will make this happen.we live in hope. 
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Connected
    edited June 2018
    marie21 said:
    I believe it's awarded for a long term illness or disability then it should be for life. No disability or long term illness will go away.  
    I am totally in agreement with you, but it's up to the DWP on how they want to define 'long term illness or disability'. They can set a list of conditions, but how would that work as not everyone with that particular condition will have the same degree of issues than another would.
    Then the argument could be that being awarded PIP does not depend on having a diagnosis.
    Should someone who has say Type 1 diabetes which as we all know is for life be awarded the higher rates for life as against someone who has say COPD in all it's varying levels of outlook.

    If this does come in there will be a lot of arguments as to what conditions should be included.
    It's going to end up like DLA with the majority of the regulations being decided in the courts thus expanding the original intent to something that it was never intended to cover. 
  • wilko
    wilko Member Posts: 2,457 Disability Gamechanger
    Let's all settle down and wait and see what DWP finally put into practice then we shall all know where we are or will be in the accessment regime.
  • bevt2017
    bevt2017 Member Posts: 324 Pioneering
    Hi @marie21

    Thanks for the update.
    I think that's fantastic news.
     :) 
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Connected
    wilko said:
    Let's all settle down and wait and see what DWP finally put into practice then we shall all know where we are or will be in the accessment regime.
    Agreed. It get's so annoying when people seem to think that the DWP & the government are that caring and are wanting to shell out benefits on a long term basis for everyone that receives the Enhanced rates for both components for the next ten years without any checks taking place - might as well have kept DLA running if that happens.

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