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crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
edited August 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
hi everyone you all good? I’m just sat here in my wheelchair after getting off phone with my energy provider wondering what the upside of being disabled, I’ve just applied for the warm home discount but to get it you have to have a disability or be in a certain category . This is a good thing because basically i get free energy but it did get me thinking about being disabled , i find it very difficult being in a wheelchair and doing things like this makes it a little bit harder, not much i can do about it and there are good things that come from it but it does make you wonder. NC

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  • Angiebabes2410Angiebabes2410 Member Posts: 70 Courageous
    I think we can get £140 a year usually paid around march. I heard they are making it harder to get, just like everything else xx
  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,284 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi cripps to qualify for the warm front ENGERY discount firstly your supplier for your electricity has to be a member of the scheme, and you have to be in receipt of certain qualifying benefits to be able to get the £140'discountnoff your winter electict fuel bill. Being a disabled person dose not give you or make you entitiled to claiming the discount it relies on which benefits you are claiming at the end of the year and checked are made via DWP
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    Thank you for that, they did say they would let me know if i had been excepted or not so it’s just a waiting game, any money my way will be useful. Do you know anyone that had been excepted and how they went about getting it? 
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    I applied last year, in September or October is when you can apply, thats with the energy supplier I’m with. The £140 goes into your energy account and you do not get the cash.
    It helps pay for the higher winter bills.

    Hope that helps
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    That’s great even crediting the money to my account will help because the winter bills are extremely high. Being in a wheelchair doesn’t help because i don’t move around so much, i do put extra clothing on but it can only do so much, i do hope i get the money it will ease my anxiety a lot and stress paying the bills. 
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    What benefits do you need to be on to get the winter discount? 
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    I’m on ESA and PIP but don’t know what other benefits count, go on your energy supplier website and it should tell you 
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    Ok thanks, in one way (i hope this doesn’t sound horrible but i was hoping if you are disabled it mattered most) I’m on p.i.p and universal credit let’s hope!! I’ll check the website to see what benefits you need. It’s all very complicated just for a couple of quid. NC
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    I have mental health problems so I’m classed as disabled.

    Ir depends on your supplier who gets it or not and don’t leave it too late, I’m going to apply next month if the scheme has started then.

    Hope you get the £140 which is a great help towards energy bills
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    It seems that different suppliers start at different times does that mean they pay at different times as well. ? It may be a good idea if it is posted on this forum to remind everyone to apply for the discount. NC
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm surprised that applications are even open for this already. Having looked a few weeks ago i seen you can't apply until October.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • happy91happy91 Member Posts: 101 Pioneering
    Thanks for posting about this will definitely apply come winter. Have issues with my knees, awaiting op. Not in a wheelchair. Feel isolated, mobility issues
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    I’m with Utilita and there taking applications now but only for one week, not sure about other energy suppliers. 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited August 2018

    Eligibility

    There are 2 ways to qualify for the Warm Home Discount Scheme:

    Not too sure why people who are disabled think that they are automatically entitled to the Warm Home Discount of £140 to put towards the winter bills.

    The only group of people that are guaranteed this payment are those that are claiming Guarantee Pension Credit. It does not matter if they are disabled or not. 

    The other group, the broader group, the payment is not guaranteed and it depends on what money each power company has left after paying out to the OAP's. To get this money you have to show receipt of a  low income benefit + a disabled element. 
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    I’m with EDF and winter 2018/2019 is open for applications in September 
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    Disabled people are not guaranteed but my opinion is and it is my opinion disabled people should get the discount because they use more energy in the winter, just keeping warm is hard enough so get off your horse and back the people that need it. NC
  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    Put the word out and make sure everyone knows. 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited August 2018
    cripps said:
     just keeping warm is hard enough so get off your horse and back the people that need it. NC


    Is there any need to say that? I was only putting people straight about entitlement as quoted from the DWP website.
    My opinion as to who should have it guaranteed is here nor there. However the elderly also have a need, sometimes a greater need than a disabled person would have.
    And before you ask no we don't get it by right even though we are 70 and 74 and we are both disabled!
    The more people who are in the broader group that make a claim could well cause others not to get it. It's a limited amount of money that is available after the core group receive their's by right
  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,263 Pioneering
    @cripps, not all disabilities would necessarily have a higher utility usage and, to start including those that do, would put an unnecessary strain on deciding who to give it to or not. The outcome would likely be to stop the system all together. The idea of utility help was started with old people in mind who really do need more help. I have begun to notice myself that I notice the cold more as I get older. Personally I think it should be means tested but that's just an opinion.

    Being disabled does not necessarily mean that we are entitled to every possible help just that, under certain circumstances, we could get some of them. Trying to get every possible help is likely to upset the majority of healthy people and even some of the disabled community. Of course we would all like to have it but then, when you look at other disabled, it might start jealousy creeping in if some got it that didn't really need it and there is enough of THAT already.

    All help is limited and, if it becomes more trouble than it's worth to administrate, could easily be taken away altogether.

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Topkitten said:
     The idea of utility help was started with old people in mind who really do need more help...... Personally I think it should be means tested but that's just an opinion
    In fact it is means tested both for the core group (the elderly with guaranteed pension credit) as well as the broader group (those receiving income based ESA & JSA + IS)

  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,263 Pioneering
    @Yadnad, maybe it is in some areas but not in mine. My cleaner's mother gets it despite having savings of over half a million pounds plus I know of a few other cases where older people get it despite receiving a generous private pension in addition a state pension and having savings from releasing equity in their home. To my knowledge no area does means test it but I am not sure that is true of absolutely everywhere, just from opinions expressed on various social sites.

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited August 2018
    Topkitten said:
    @Yadnad, maybe it is in some areas but not in mine. My cleaner's mother gets it despite having savings of over half a million pounds plus I know of a few other cases where older people get it despite receiving a generous private pension in addition a state pension and having savings from releasing equity in their home. To my knowledge no area does means test it but I am not sure that is true of absolutely everywhere, just from opinions expressed on various social sites.

    TK
    It has absolutely nothing to do with areas. It is a national scheme set up by the government of the day to help the aged who were finding that they could not afford heating during the winter.
    There is not a chance for anybody claiming income based benefits such as ESA, JSA etc to be on those benefits if they have access to capital beyond £16,000. In fact at that level their benefit would have reduced almost to nil in any event. 

    However for those of pensionable age who are claiming Guaranteed Pension Credit there is a massive difference.
     For a start there is no upper limit for savings - all that happens is that the benefit is reduced by £1 a week for every £500 above £10,000.

    For some that are on the 'old' GPC scheme due to age at the time it was changed there is no reduction at all - so yes there are many OAP's that have £millions in the bank that are still entitled to the maximum benefit.

    Finally for those over the age of 65, who are disabled etc, they can be entitled to a guaranteed minimum income upwards of £700 a week.
     
     In my case and whilst I was being awarded PIP until earlier this year, the government calculated that we required a minimum income level of £695.35 a week. Pension Credit topped our total income up to that level. I have 5 private/work related pensions, my state pension is in excess of £200 a week + my wife's OAP + benefits. 

    So using my example and if I was say at least another 6 years older, then I would still be on DLA and have the ability to have unlimited savings but still get the £695.35 every week.

    All in all you are right but not for the right reasons.
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    This threads getting negative.

    The upshot is if your entitled then claim from your supplier.

    Im taking about the winter warm home discount through your energy supplier.

    If your on certain benefits you can claim £140 towards your energy bill and it’s paid into your energy account in March the following year.

  • crippscripps Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    Thank you I’ll let you know if i receive anything . NC
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