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Nursey issues

Ween83Ween83 Member Posts: 5 Listener
So i have several health issues that need carefully managed. My son has just started nursery and the induction week is bizarre.  Parents have to stay and attend all week, i already have a migraine from the fluorescent lights in there today. Anyway i have previously tried to address my health issues with the head teacher and she basically said sge is not there so i can rest at home, my health is not an excuse ect. My problem is this nursery has mandatory parent attendance for at least two hours per week and trips. I have explained i can say a day in advance but i do not know on that particular day if i will be able to attend or take part. This coming friday is a trip to the park. Its a considerable walk with no toilit near by, my life is designed around be accessible to a tolit. I also know it will cause me to crash. I have been told i must attend or lose the placement.  Where do i stand with this? can they force me, no other nurseries in the area do this. Also no placements elsewhere and i only got this place due to health reasons, yet they won't accommodate. 


  • Pippa_AlumniPippa_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,851 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Ween83, and welcome! 

    Goodness, what a bizarre situation. I'm so sorry to hear about the issues you're having, and I'm sure the worry won't be helping your symptoms either.

    I'm not quite sure what to suggest here, but hopefully other members will be able to offer some suggestions. The term reasonable adjustments is usually used within a work context, but it sounds as though it may be applicable here too! @Angela_Scope/ @Scope_rosie, is there anything you can suggest here?
  • EmmaBEmmaB Member Posts: 263 Pioneering
    Dear @Ween83

    This comes across as sheer discrimination to me and presumably they have this 'parent must hang around / be on trips' etc because they are not properly funded/staffed?  

    I wonder what would happen if you say you simply cannot do the park trip and just mention the words discrimination and 'looking at taking further action' if they start saying about removing the placement...

    How did you organise the placement if it was through an organisation because of your health needs then you could go back to them for back up? 

    Absolutely bizarre given that you got the place because of health reasons.

    Hopefully this is all teething problems and it will settle down.

  • Sam_AlumniSam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,729 Disability Gamechanger
    edited September 2018
    Have you seen the nursery policies @Ween83 ?

    You could also speak to the Parent Governors Board if they have one? Is it a private or council run nursery?
    Senior online community officer
  • Ween83Ween83 Member Posts: 5 Listener
    Thank you to everyone who has replied. Im already feeling more empowered. 
    It really is a bizzare set up they have going on. I have actually been questioning there staff ratio to kids to friends as no where else is doing this. 
    Its really not helping my health. At the moment im waiting on an adapted mobility car and lessons through motability to help. My anxiety is through the roof, i feel like a worthless parent. I push myself every single day. 
    No its not a nusery for disabled parents its a normal council run nursery.  Apparently there are such shortages in my area that around 40% of three year olds cannot be offered a placement so i was initially knocked back and told to try next year. The board squeezed me in due to my doctors letter and health isdues clearly seeing a placement would be beneficial to my overall health. Currently i have no time free from parenting at all, so that means no rest.
    Im going to read through the discrimination laws and print them out for reference and qoute the laws if need be. I have also just notified my local councillors to see what they say. 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 128 Listener

    Ahh, I see - so places are tight in your area then?  Bizzare is the word!   If there aren't any council-run nurseries available, could they fund a nursery place at a private nursery?  Especially given the ''unusual requirements'' your current placement is stipulating.  

    Not that this should be necessary - as the current nursery will hopefully buck up their ideas! Good luck, would love to hear how you get on.

    Senior Officer
    Scope helpline
  • Ween83Ween83 Member Posts: 5 Listener
    Im reading up and preparing for a fight. Now contacted my mp too. 

    Today was not much better. I walked around with my wee one inside and out the nursery area and played away with him for 1hr 40 mins before i got dizzy, in too much pain and needed a seat. So i sit down whilst my son is playing next to me. After a few minutes i was approached and told i cannot just sit down and i was here to play with my son. Told them i physically needed a quick rest. So she wandered off to inform to head.  Its ridiculous im not allowed to sit if i need a rest. My GAD that was brought on last few years due to new conditions is not great in this situation and i struggle to communicate sometimes when i really should. I used to be so confident and assertive.  My son had a mini meltdown over not wanting to eat lunch and i was given no help from staff to help me coax him over to the lunch area . I think with a little encouragement from the staff and he would have snapped out of it and been fine. The head then came over and told me to just go home and that she would cancel his lunch next two days and he clearly gad issues settling in. We both had a cold so he is a little grumpy. He has been excited about nursery, running in no problem and playing away, i actually think he would be fine if i just left him. He was actually annoyed i was following him everywhere.  But there rules where to follow and play with your kids at all times. This is fine, but i cannot not sit for hours on end. Its not exactly a crime. I was then told he clearly is having issues settling in and i would need to come in next week and the week after ect as long as it took for him to want to eat lunch and do the same, play in nursery, go on long walks to park ect. His cousin had his induction today and kids where freely able to play without parents following their every step and the parents even sat and had a chat and a cuppa. They are in full time next week and expect a wee few minute wobble from some as parents leave but they deal with it and know its normal. They are usually fine within minutes of parents leaving. I feel like im complaining and making a big deal out of nothing, and never complain about things. Its the whole general attitude from induction meeting a few months ago that has me feeling irritated.  The nusery have a policy that parents must spend two hours a week after induction week in the nursery taking part in outings and activities.  I said this is fine but im not good with advance planning as i do not know if its going to be a good day or bad day. A bad day i can get my oldest to school and pick her up again and do what needs done at home, dinner, housework,  homework ect. But she immediately from that moment it seems took offence to my unreliability . Health issues are not an excuse, nursery is  not there for me to rest, or have time to myself. I beg to differ if my doctor wants me to have time to rest and as i have no family help then it is. She also keeps going on about how i cope everyday in general, i told her its a balance and i do have help generally at weekend's and in the evenings if need be. I get out loads with my kids but just not full on every day on my feet constantly.  If i need to sit i sit. I had a cry today, she is making me feel like a useless  mother,  just because i struggle walking distances and staying on my feet for hours on end and have days i can be housebound due to a dodgy tummy and my colostomy. 
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,653 Disability Gamechanger
    edited September 2018
    Hi @Ween83 , it really does sound like they have a very unusual set up. The advice you have been given is great and I am glad this makes you feel more confident about making a complaint. We all wish you the very best of luck with this and you certainly are not complaining about nothing. Reasonable adjustment should be offered. Good luck and please do keep us updated :)

  • Ween83Ween83 Member Posts: 5 Listener
    edited September 2018
    Thank you M.P has mow contacted education board and says it could be upto 10 working days for a response. Im dreading backlash from her or staff over my complaint. Im not a complainer at all so it makes me nervous. Today's session included a walking trip to the libary and as i have a chest infection this week(rubbish timimg) it's all just making me that little bit more fatiged.  She was not available to talk to this morning so I have emailed her asking if i can have his session within the nursery tommorow as its a 2 hour trip to park. All walking. Awaiting her reply. I have also asked if she could clarify the game plan for getting him to stay the full session and eat his lunch. She said yesterday as long as it takes, a month if needed. I cannot be making double trips for a month and staying in there  the whole time walking around, going trips to park ect. Its all a bit too much. Really hating how they are questioning what I do all day and making me feel like I do not do enough if im not out and about walking around with my son all day. He gets out so much, more than most of my working parents kids. It just so happens a few super busy days usually mean a few slower paced days and yes this means days at home, apart from my daughter's school run. 
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,653 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm glad there has been some progress. You're entitled to days of rest at home! That is what will help you manage your fatigue and I am sorry they are making you feel bad about this. It doesn't make you any less of a parent.

  • Ween83Ween83 Member Posts: 5 Listener
    Thank you, i cannot help but feel useless atm. The other nurserys in my area are full, i was only given this placement as a last minute acceptance due to my health needs. So it seems insane that the board that decides on who gets placements think I need the placement yet the nursery are saying my health is no excuse to not do everthing.  
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,653 Disability Gamechanger
    edited September 2018
    I agree with you @Ween83 , it doesn't make sense! I really so hope things can be sorted quickly for you.

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