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Doctors have not heard of pip
Grandma49
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I have asked 4 hospital consultants if they knew about pip. All negative responses. Not interested. Same at gp surgery 3 gps asked - said they were not interested. How can I ask for help in supporting my claim?
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If that fails just tell them it's a benefit that you're applying for and you'd like a copy of your medical records
I'm a qualified accountant specialising in fraud detection and forensic accounting. I know almost zilch about the benefit system other than what I have learned from making claims that failed and what I have learnt on this site.
Asking for a copy of your hospital medical records is a totally different thing. That can be done by applying direct to the hospital trust direct.
You may find that your GP holds copies of the consultant's reports.
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
Changing it to anything else won't really make any difference - there will still be the cuts.
The government see it that people claiming benefits have had it too easy for far too long. The intention is to force people into work.
@yadnad I'm not sure if your post is directed at me regarding UC?
If it is then, it's in my signature as I'm asking members to sign the petition run by the Mirror news paper.
Im fully aware of the situation regarding UC and the reasons behind it why and what it's all about.
Im also involved on other protests fighting for change, or getting this stopped as it's ruining many lives.
I've also sent some very strongly worded letters to the Prime Minister Theresa May, Amber Rudd and Alok Sharma and the DWP to force change, and make them realise what the United Nations has to say about the poverty, homelessness, starving etc in our country, as this cannot be ignored to many lives are being lost through this harsh regime the government has put on the British people.
Edited also to add. This benefit affects people in and out of work, as all 6 various benefits are being rolled into 1.
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
Are you asking for signatures
@Misscleo yes the more the better. if you follow down on my signature there's a link that will take you to the page you can then add your support.
Or use this direct link here https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-stop-the-rollout-of-universal-credit-and-replace-it-with-a-fairer-system
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
You would only have to look at me to see Iam a complete wreck.
I would say if people don't have much proof of functional input on how it affects them it may well be harder I don't know.
All I do know my Health professionals wtrote what I can't do as I see them 4 times a week the other days I'm drugged up on all my medication.
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
Your NHS and migration comments are equally inaccurate and basically prejudice that needs calling out. You have basically bought into every Daily Mail headline ever.
i when i can ...Have you ever thought about people like MY OWN BROTHER who refuses all Benifits because he was in a well Paid job has Cancer was in Hospital for 9 Months ?But could NOT JUSTIFY claiming a penny dispite being told he would never walk again?We are NOT scroungers none off us chose tobe in this position i am MEDICALLY Retired and have 80 year old parents careing for me and my SON my Brother went back to work in a wheelchair because he was well enough to?I would personally rather have my HEALTH BACK ...Than be trying to point out the obvious -that your slightly confused or Delusional
and still attempting to work part time to keep us afloat..So your in our Canoo minus a paddle ..I am sorry for you..
Poppy I said there where people cheating the system not EVERONE but you àre welcome to your opinion as am I.
Iam adding the statistics showing that benefit fraud is very very small. Also anyone in there right mind would rather not claim because of all the hoops you have to go through to get what one is entitled too.
So as you can quite clealy see its minimal. So now I've shared this I'm now going to take my pills and rest.
Also to add people think before you type and especially what you type about as it's not right to offend anyone.
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
So it seems that I am contributing to those that do claim benefits but I never complain about them illegal or legal and personally don't get anything in return.
Each to their own I say.
I personally know of two that are actually working and claiming, one who has three hairdressing saloon/beauty shops yet discloses a profit of just above the minimum wage for the hours worked. (cash business and not knowing what to spend it on) one (a couple) who receives Standard Care of PIP and are over 60 who also claims Pension Credit and has an income close to £700 a week based on benefits and works in the black economy as a plumber.
Obviously I have no intention of naming names as the above information came by way of discussions I have had with them in the past and is confidential. .
The cheekiest is the family where the wife runs the hairdressers shops.
Prior to UC, they were claiming Tax credits for the children and themselves on the basis of a low income.
Yet in one year spending £10,000 on a rolex watch for her, a £5000 diamond engagement ring and a new Range Rover Sport costing in excess of £70,000 (minus the p/x for the 3 year old model) + regular holidays abroad!
Some paid for in cash outright whilst the car (balance) and the watch were paid for on a friend's credit card where she handed over the equivalent amount in cash to cover the card payment (making the transactions for them, untraceable).
People have no idea what actually goes on in real life.
Thanks just seen you message @poppy123456 👍🏻❤️just woke up for a bit and still not to good atmo. Thanks for caring I really feel sick today can't seem to feel right today, but I'm like that most days.😢
Edited to add I'm glad those statistics was useful. Poppy👍🏻
@yadnad hope your well just caught up again on this thread it's really changed from what is was and as always you have some interesting story's to share with us 😂😂😂😂😂 hope your keeping well, as for those getting all that money that's what really gets to me it really does.
No I certainly don't know what goes on these days I'm either stuck in, and only get a little gossip from my HPs that's it. Oh and from here of course.🤪
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
Back to the OP, you can ask for copies of letters sent from your consultant to your GP. They may, or may not, be helpful with a PIP claim. The most important evidence comes from you filling out the form properly. Explain in your own words, with recent examples, what happens when you try to do the various activities that are asked about.
I hear what you’re saying but what I’d say is that the functional stuff you’re talking about is nothing to do with PIP. Your consultant sees you come in/go out of their room. What could they possibly conclude about your functional ability to cook unless they see you do it; to eat unless they see you do it; to budget; toilet and so on? Anything they write on the back of seeing you in a consulting room is speculation based on what you tell them rather than what they see. If they’re prepared to write down what you say then that means they think it credible but that’s not medical evidence. It’s the same as your neighbour saying “yes, on what I can see, that seems credible. Yadnad said: I find stuff like this faintly ridiculous. I’ve dealt with the hairdressing trade for years and there’s very little money in it. It’s largely a mugs game and highly credible that profits will be negligible to nil. As for the pensioner couple how about you put those figures into a benefit calculator and see if you can make it get to £700. I guarantee it won’t happen.
@poppy123456 that's about the only thing I have left sometimes is my humour, glad I bring a smile to at least ones face🤣🤣🤣🤣 you also keep are chin up because I don't want it falling down🤪
@mikehughescq yes I also understand where your also coming from as I said I have consultants come to me at home "I don't really like talking about this stuff" I hope you understand a bit more why, plus I have other HPs keep an eye on me I'm on a special watch list because of things I've done to myself over the years, I should be dead by now which what I've done to myself, I've spent many time in institutions also and yes they do see how I live or not well in my case.
So for me I have so much **** going on in my head and added with all my physical problems, if you could see me you certainly would understand.
I did and had a great life before all my issues, accident's and things of the past not good.
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
@mikehughescq yes that makes more sense then as those reports explain everything in more detail plus added with the diagnosis I know it's not about the diagnosis? But there all part and parcel.
Poppy I hope mike gets back to you before sending that review form off. Good luck with it😀
I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
Most of those few cases hit the TV and the newspapers one way or another.
Yep it's no wonder that I find it difficult to accept anything anybody says as being the truth having spent most of my life dealing with those types.
Weren't you medically retired after the armed robbery in the mid 90s? That must have been quite an early internet crime case. And please don't try and minimise it by using the term child porn. It's images of child abuse.
Then in 2004 I went down with Acute Pancreatitis which developed into full blown Chronic Pancreatitis because of the amount of booze I was consuming.
After spending months in hospital I went back to work until 2008 when I turned 60 and retired permanently.
Then in 2011 I restarted my DLA claim (the old one was closed down in 2004 as I did not send back the renewal form).
Now looking back I didn't do myself any favours in the way I acted. The demons came back with a vengeance hence why my GP treats part of the problem (depression) with the max dose of Sertraline. I need to get what is in my head out and accept that when I had the chance to do that previously I turned it down.
My changed personality (from the brain damage caused at the same time of the robbery) is my worst enemy - too late to treat it now - I discharged myself from hospital when I was flown there by HEMS in South London.
That really will put me up against over 50% of the local population and not do much for my popularity at the forthcoming elections next May.
The main question to solve is who is going to pay for such a service? The Council Taxpayer?
When my council axed their in house welfare rights advisory and support service a few years back, there was little support in wanting it to change it's mind and retain it. More concern was raised over the state of the local council gardens not being replenished during the seasons of the year due to the cuts in staff and cost of plants
Not good I know, but it is reality.
Being in a fairly wealthy area, my ward consists of, in the main, the retired, professional middle aged and a small enclave of those in Social Housing.
Whilst I would love to be able to signpost those who needed welfare advice to an officer but I have to consider what the majority of the area would want their money spent on.
At the moment it is off street parking, travellers (the legal costs of removing them) and the redevelopment of the council offices and the community centre that takes pride of place for the available funds.
We are looking to extend the Public Space Protection Orders, They already cover the city centre and most of the wealthier suburbs now we are looking to include the areas around the two universities as well as anything within the ring road.
Obviously I have reservations about this as all that will happen is to move people on to other areas which will cause problems for those residents.
Besides which many sectors of society see their own environment as more important than paying for such a service. If that environment is being plagued by rough sleepers, crime, drugs etc the majority would want that sorted as a matter of priority - enforcing a PSPO is what they would want - move them on to someone else's patch! As an example you only have to look at Blackpool. A once middle and working class town and popular holiday resort. Get behind the sea front and what do you see - deprivation on every corner. Why? because the council allowed it to happen - it is now a haven of bedsits and squalor. It is normal to see people queuing outside the ATM in the middle of the night waiting for their money to be paid in from the DWP. Then they do their 'shopping' at the many all night supermarkets or maybe scoring for drugs from the many dealers that are hanging around.
As I have said I am not in full agreement with these proposals, but it's the electorate that dictates the policies.
Equally your assertion that Blackpool is as it is somehow because of the council. Well, words truly fail. Blackpool has been as it is for around half a century. Recent central government policies have accelerated that but it has almost nothing to do with the local council at all.