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Doctors have not heard of pip

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Grandma49
Grandma49 Community member Posts: 3 Listener
I have asked 4 hospital consultants if they knew about pip. All negative responses. Not interested. Same at gp surgery 3 gps asked - said they were not interested. How can I ask for help in supporting my claim? 
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  • wilko
    wilko Community member Posts: 2,458 Disability Gamechanger
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    Why do you need their help for your PIP claim surly you have all your medical notes and hospital letters reports? PIP is about how your health  conditions disability’s effect you in daily life in meeting the PIP descriptors, the fact that the doctors don’t know about PIP or any other benefits is neither here or there its your daily activities and how they effect, and impact your daily living that all PIP is about.
  • Grandma49
    Grandma49 Community member Posts: 3 Listener
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    No I don’t have all the letters - that’s why I asked the medics if they could help me.
  • PIPQuestions
    PIPQuestions Community member Posts: 32 Connected
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    They should know about pip or I'd question their qualifications... Maybe call it DLA ? 

    If that fails just tell them it's a benefit that you're applying for and you'd like a copy of your medical records 
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
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    They should know about pip or I'd question their qualifications... Maybe call it DLA ? 

    If that fails just tell them it's a benefit that you're applying for and you'd like a copy of your medical records 
    To be honest there is no need for a consultant to know anything about the benefit system for him to carry out his role of a consultant.

    I'm a qualified accountant specialising in fraud detection and forensic accounting. I know almost zilch about the benefit system other than what I have learned from making claims that failed and what I have learnt on this site.

    Asking for a copy of your hospital medical records is a totally different thing. That can be done by applying direct to the hospital trust direct.
    You may find that your GP holds copies of the consultant's reports.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,016 Disability Gamechanger
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    It's perfectly normal for a Consultant and GP not to know anything about PIP, i've no idea why they would have to know anything about it. That statement is ridiculous.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • CockneyRebel
    CockneyRebel Community member Posts: 5,209 Disability Gamechanger
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    Medical " evidence " is of little use for a PIP claim. The asessment and award are based on functionality and not on condition, diagnosis or illness. For a successful claim you need to concentrate on showing that you meet the desciptors and criteria for an award

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
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    Medical " evidence " is of little use for a PIP claim. The asessment and award are based on functionality and not on condition, diagnosis or illness. For a successful claim you need to concentrate on showing that you meet the desciptors and criteria for an award

    CR
    ….and provide evidence that what you claim are the problems are backed up. 
  • Government_needs_reform
    Government_needs_reform Community member Posts: 859 Pioneering
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    Your best approach is ask for functional evidence. Don't rely on the DWP to ask for it.


    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
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    One of the main reasons for bringing out UC was for the government to cut back on benefits being paid out - sort of carrot and stick.
    Changing it to anything else won't really make any difference - there will still be the cuts.
    The government see it that people claiming benefits have had it too easy for far too long. The intention is to force people into work.
  • Government_needs_reform
    Government_needs_reform Community member Posts: 859 Pioneering
    edited November 2018
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    Yadnad said:
    One of the main reasons for bringing out UC was for the government to cut back on benefits being paid out - sort of carrot and stick.
    Changing it to anything else won't really make any difference - there will still be the cuts.
    The government see it that people claiming benefits have had it too easy for far too long. The intention is to force people into work.

    @yadnad I'm not sure if your post is directed at me regarding UC?
     
    If it is then, it's in my signature as I'm asking members to sign the petition run by the Mirror news paper.

    Im fully aware of the situation regarding UC and the reasons behind it why and what it's all about.

    Im also involved on other protests fighting for change, or getting this stopped as it's ruining many lives.

    I've also sent some very strongly worded letters to the Prime Minister Theresa May, Amber Rudd and Alok Sharma and the DWP to force change, and make them realise what the United Nations has to say about the poverty, homelessness, starving etc in our country, as this cannot be ignored to many lives are being lost through this harsh regime the government has put on the British people.

    Edited also to add. This benefit affects people in and out of work, as all 6 various benefits are being rolled into 1.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • Misscleo
    Misscleo Community member Posts: 647 Pioneering
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    Please give more info.
    Are you asking for signatures 
  • Government_needs_reform
    Government_needs_reform Community member Posts: 859 Pioneering
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    Misscleo said:
    Please give more info.
    Are you asking for signatures 

    @Misscleo yes the more the better. if you follow down on my signature there's a link that will take you to the page you can then add your support.  

    Or use this direct link here https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-stop-the-rollout-of-universal-credit-and-replace-it-with-a-fairer-system
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • Government_needs_reform
    Government_needs_reform Community member Posts: 859 Pioneering
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    I agree @Username_removed that funchional information can be limited? But in my case I see consultants etc on a regular basis, and have done for years and they can see what and how things effect me functionally, in my case I dont function very well at all.
     
    You would only have to look at me to see Iam a complete wreck.

    I would say if people don't have much proof of functional input on how it affects them it may well be harder I don't know. 

    All I do know my Health professionals wtrote what I can't do as I see them 4 times a week the other days I'm drugged up on all my medication.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • Grandma49
    Grandma49 Community member Posts: 3 Listener
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    Ok. Thank you for the imput.
  • abrami
    abrami Community member Posts: 12 Listener
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    the problem the gov has is and everybody knows someone who does cheat. There are people up and down this country both legal and illegal that claim this benefit or that just for extra money they don't really need, and it is all parts of the system that is taken advantage of people coming into country to use the nhs for free others illegally in the country claiming and people not paying the right amount of tax on there business others working and claiming the list goes on . If all of this was not going on there would be no poverty in this country as the money would go to those in NEED not GREED .
      
  • abrami
    abrami Community member Posts: 12 Listener
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    With respect I personal know of people joking about how easy it is to get benefits never said it was the whole or only problem but like insurance where price is going up because of fraud I personally don't read or buy into what other people or papers say it's what I see daily it has absolutely nothing to do with blaming imagination or race sex and I take offence at you suggest that that is what I meant I am saying if to many people take and not enough give well you work it out.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,016 Disability Gamechanger
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    Very few people claim benefits fraudulently and i'm not sure what insurance has to do with a benefits claim. You can't judge a by it's cover either and lots of people have invisible conditions/disabilities.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Tardis
    Tardis Community member Posts: 214 Pioneering
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    PIP is not an out of work benefit.  PIP claimants could well be paying high rate tax.  Or their claiming it may enable them to pay for care in order that their partner can work and pay tax.  The taking and giving are not mutually exclusive.
  • abrami
    abrami Community member Posts: 12 Listener
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    Ok I will respectful disagree and leave it there thank you for comments .
  • C_Herath2009
    C_Herath2009 Community member Posts: 26 Listener
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    perhaps you should go for an Assesment?No Proffesional (Would back someone that was fraudately claiming this is very depressing you seem to have the view that we are all scrounging ?Wanting something for nothing i consider myself LUCKY (However given the choice i would give up every penny not to have a Brain Injury..Epilepsy and a back and Pelvis that is held together with TITANIUM?Or attend a day center for brain injured people ?I am 42 ?I have a 9 year old his life and mine have been turned upside down (I had a good job ,was well paid ,paid all my bills and always still apreciate other peoples predicaments that there is someon out there worse OFF ?(Such as a young child with Cancer ?)Are they working the system ?(Please don't bother to respond ...)Maybe you should try falling off a toilet and being incontant?Or having a seizure in front of a young child..My Son has more compasion than you do in your big toe he gives to all charitys and so do
    i when i can ...Have you ever thought about people like MY OWN BROTHER who refuses all Benifits because he was in a well Paid job has Cancer was in Hospital for 9 Months ?But could NOT JUSTIFY claiming a penny dispite being told he would never walk again?We are NOT scroungers none off us chose tobe in this position i am MEDICALLY Retired and have 80 year old parents careing for me and my SON my Brother went back to work in a wheelchair because he was well enough to?I would personally rather have my HEALTH BACK ...Than be trying to point out the obvious -that your slightly confused or Delusional 
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