cooking

ereilly26

hi I cant cook because I have a key switch on my cooker they gave me 2 points for that what dose the forum think  I also have a life line round my neck what dose the forum think

poppy123456

Hi,

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here. Have you applied for PIP and been refused recently?

Sam_Alumni

Can you be a bit clearer on what you are asking @ereilly26

ereilly26

yes they only gave me 2 points for preparing food and cook a meal but I cant put the cooker on because of the key switch yes it is pip I was turned down for daily living needs

CockneyRebel

Sorry, can you explain what a key switch on a cooker is ?

Is it a gas or electric cooker ?

If you had a cooker without a key switch what would stop you cooking ?

topshoes

Hi  @ereilly26 welcome ,  i have got one for my cooker , but i dont use it think i got 4 of them , , can put photo on here if someone let me know how you do it, for you to see what it is x

poppy123456

@topshoes what does the key switch do please? Is it there to stop someone from using the cooker for safety reasons?

Firefly123

My aunt has one it is for safety reasons only her carers can use the key to operate the cooker 

topshoes

@poppy123456 had to look at them lol ,   any one can turn it on or off , its like turning your tv off at main so there is not a fire , all it is  up to date when they put in new kitchens and rewire places , hope this helps ,

poppy123456

ereilly26 said:

yes they only gave me 2 points for preparing food and cook a meal but I cant put the cooker on because of the key switch yes it is pip I was turned down for daily living needs

As the key switch is for safety reasons, if the switch wasn't there would you be able to prepare and cook a simple meal?

What about the other 9 daily living descriptors? You need to take a look at them to see where else you could score those points.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/Global/Migrated_Documents/adviceguide/pip-9-table-of-activities-descriptors-and-points.pdf

CockneyRebel

Ah thanks

So it would seem that you need supervision to use a conventional cooker, however

c. Cannot cook a simple meal using a conventional cooker but is able to do so using a microwave. points. 2 points

Unless you are unable to use a mircowave other than not having one

poppy123456

Thanks @topshoes

topshoes

@poppy123456 there is no key , you just turn it on and red light come on and if you switch it off the red light comes off , power is off then  , any one can turn it on to use cooker or turn it off when finished , yes if turn off no power get to it , it is not any think special , loads of people have got them who got new kitchen and new rewiring ,   

Tardis

Would you be able to use a microwave?  That might have been what they were thinking when they gave you two points.  Did you  get any points for washing or dressing or any of the other things?

Firefly123

@topshoes there is a key switch for cookers for vulnerable people who are at risk if they use the cooker unsupervised so it prevents them from doing so 

poppy123456

@topshoes ah ok i'm with you now. It's just a basic switch, thanks for explaining that.

topshoes

@poppy123456yes yes  it is , thats fine 

poppy123456

A locking cooker valve like this one. https://cadentgas.com/emergencies-safety/safeguarding/locking-cooker-valves

topshoes

thats not what iv got , but not sure about @ereilly26

topshoes

Hi @Firefly123 i think maybe ereilly26 is gas as im electric and mine is called a key switch too 

ereilly26

I have a  electric cooker it is used so I cant turn on the cooker

topshoes

 @ereilly26 has it got the light on switch like i said above

ereilly26

i got 7 points in total for daily care i also have careers come in to times a day

Firefly123

Yes my Aunts is gas @topshoes just like poppy posted.I've no idea about electric ones  

Did you have help filling the form in @ereilly26 

topshoes

i think @poppy123456 is trying to help you as knows about all the points as i dont  lol

topshoes

@Firefly123 yes i know it is hard as well if you not got a photo to let every one know what your on about , but hope we got there in the end lol

ereilly26

no I did not have help to fill the form in as I am on my own

Firefly123

Yes @topshoes 😁 

poppy123456

The question that has been answered the question that has been asked more than once. As no one can seem to identify what sort of switch this is, can you prepare and cook a simple meal yourself, or do you need assistance or supervision from another person?

ereilly26

I cant  prepare and cook a simple meal by myself

poppy123456

ereilly26 said:

I cant  prepare and cook a simple meal by myself

You need to explain why you can't do this and what would happen if you did try to do this by yourself. The same for every other descriptor, you need to explain why you can't do that activity.

ereilly26

hi if I did not have the key switch for the cooker I have set the cooker on fire 2 times as I forget it was on because I have very bad memory I also get careers who come in 3.hours 30 minutes a week to give me tablets as I forget to take them they gave me 1 point for that I got 2 points for washing and bathing 2 points for making budgeting decisions and 12 points for planning and following a journey

poppy123456

Do you currently have an award? Sorry but i'm confused, i thought you asked about claiming PIP so i assumed you didn't have an award.

ereilly26

yes I got the high rate of motabilty and 7 points for daily living

poppy123456

As you already have an award, what exactly is your question? Are you going through a review? or have you reported a change of circumstances? or are you asking because you're thinking of reporting a change of circumstances?

ereilly26

I want to appeal for the daily living as I had the hight rate of care on dla

C_Herath2009

I can completely understand my points(even though i got PIP..)Made nosense to my Parents had no reflection on my Day to Day living -which is complete and utter Chaos (My Mum's discription)But i would NOT (Personally go down this route,this is only MY personal view)I have many friends there situation has deteriated -they re apply end up with less than they started with ?(I have aprox 4 FRIENDS this has happened TO with Physical or Mental illness..)They take it all the way to a Judicial Review ...And get LESS than they have already been awarded...

C_Herath2009

PERSONAL oppinion only..If you have an Advocate use them ..You can look them up..

C_Herath2009

ADVOCATE look up your local one-I had someone do & Doing all this Mallarkey for me its in Klingon langauge-Don't even go near the form yourself makes no sense ..Unless you turn it upside down!!!😜Sorry still have a sense off Humour or Library one day a week will help us?

poppy123456

ereilly26 said:

I want to appeal for the daily living as I had the hight rate of care on dla

When was the decision made on the PIP award? The more information you give us here, the more someone will be able to help you. It's extremely difficult to help when limited information is given.

ereilly26

sorry the decision was made last friday

poppy123456

Firstly, you need to get face to face advice from welfare rights or a law centre near you before you ask for a Mandatory Reconsideration. No one on an internet forum can tell you if there's any risks to your current award when you ask for the MR. No one here knows exactly how your conditions affect you and it's impossible to advise further. You have 1 month from the date of the decision to request the MR.

ereilly26

it says on the form that if I get 3 hours 30 minutes a week  of care I can get 1 extra point is that right

CockneyRebel

This is for managing therapy at home for example if you need assistance with recommended physiotherapy, having carers come in does not necessarily meet this criterea

c. Needs supervision, prompting or assistance to be able to manage therapy that takes no more than 3.5 hours a week.  2 points.