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Making a new PIP claim for an over 65

YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
edited December 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
I have found this on the web from the DWP:

PIP will not be available to new claimants who are over the upper age limit (age 65 or State Pension age, whichever is higher), except where they had a previous claim to PIP or DLA which ended within the last 12 months or where they applied before that age, but that claim was not decided.

Does this mean that if a 70 year old had a previous award for PIP (Enhanced Care & Mobility) that was then cancelled following a review and it is less than 12 months since it was cancelled that they could make a completely new claim?

For me this would avoid the stress of going to appeal for the lost decision.
I don't want to get into any argument as to why I am not appealing. 
I just would like to know if I can start afresh with a new claim and hopefully make a better job of it second time round.

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  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi

    Would you please provide  a link, about this announcement by the DWP?

    So we can be better informed, to response to your thread.

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited December 2018
    atlas46 said:
    Hi

    Would you please provide  a link, about this announcement by the DWP?

    So we can be better informed, to response to your thread.

    2nd paragraph - page 2
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/180958/pip-briefing-people-over-65.pdf

    I hope that I have understood it correctly as I have been spending most of today looking for ways out of my current situation other than having to appeal.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You can't make a new claim for PIP because you're over the age of 65. You can request the Tribunal to appeal the decision of your last review because it's still within the 13 months.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Note what it says here.
    PIP will not be available to new claimants who are over the upper age limit
    (age 65 or State Pension age, whichever is higher), except where they had a
    previous claim to PIP or DLA which ended within the last 12 months or where
    they applied before that age,but that claim was not decided. Anyone making
    a new claim over the upper age limit will instead need to make a claim for
    Attendance Allowance

    Your claim was decided that you weren't entitled but you can of course appeal that decision, as stated above.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited December 2018
    You can't make a new claim for PIP because you're over the age of 65. You can request the Tribunal to appeal the decision of your last review because it's still within the 13 months.
    As I have said many times I have no intention of putting myself through the appeal process unless it is with representation. My health both physical and mental would not stand it. I doubt very much that representation is available in any event.

    I read the above after spending hours today looking for an alternative way forward. If what I have read is correct I might be able to put a new claim in despite being over 65. I don't mind filling in another PIP2 given that I have had experience of three of them.
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @Yadnad

    Yes, you have misread this document, dated March, 2013.

    As it stood in April 2013, anyone under 65 yrs, would go through the PIP process.

    To quote the PM, "nothing has changed, nothing has changed."

    One thing that has changed, in that the move to PIP from DLA was to be completed by October 2017!

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @Yadnad

    Yes, you have misread this document, dated March, 2013.

    As it stood in April 2013, anyone under 65 yrs, would go through the PIP process.

    To quote the PM, "nothing has changed, nothing has changed."

    One thing that has changed, in that the move to PIP from DLA was to be completed by October 2017!

    That document goes on to say that you can be over 65 and still make a new claim for PIP provided that no more than 12 months has elapsed since the previous award. It seems to be a safeguard process of some sort.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You'e misreading this. You can't make a new claim for PIP because you're over the age of 65.

    @mikehughescq here's one person that will give you your definite answer...can you please help answer this question mike? Thanks in advance.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    edited December 2018
    Hi @poppy123456

    Hope you and your family are well.

    The link is about transition arrangements in 2013, DLA to PIP, so is not relevant in Dec 2018.
     
    Edited by moderator
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    @Yadnad; thank you for starting your own thread to air your problems.  As the others have said, this isn't going to be a solution for you.  If you want to pursue PIP your only avenue is to appeal the last decision. 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,958 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2018
    Yadnad said:
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @Yadnad

    Yes, you have misread this document, dated March, 2013.

    As it stood in April 2013, anyone under 65 yrs, would go through the PIP process.

    To quote the PM, "nothing has changed, nothing has changed."

    One thing that has changed, in that the move to PIP from DLA was to be completed by October 2017!

    That document goes on to say that you can be over 65 and still make a new claim for PIP provided that no more than 12 months has elapsed since the previous award. It seems to be a safeguard process of some sort.
    Link please.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • justg72justg72 Member Posts: 173 Pioneering
    Hi Yadnad,
    I responded on another thread which was called HORRENDOUS PIP APPEAL YESTERDAY and I mentioned about going to different agencies and from no help received at all from one agency, to the other agency really supporting me and I maybe able to get representation for my tribunal. You told me the area you came from, well I have looked on google and have included the area where you live to see what support could be available for you and I came across this, Free Representation Unit (F.R.U.) for short. It stated that you would have to be referred I think by CAB and I understand that you have had problems with them. However if you go on their website which is: www.thefru.org.uk/get-advice/list-of-agencies. This is what it says on their website Providing free legal representation for the public and advocacy for junior lawyers. It mentions help and support in benefits, housing, debt etc. Have a look Yadnad and see if this covers the area where you live, it sounds great and looks like this could be the support you have been looking for and really need. Its worth  looking at their website page.
    Justg72  
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Note what it says here.
    PIP will not be available to new claimants who are over the upper age limit
    (age 65 or State Pension age, whichever is higher), except where they had a
    previous claim to PIP or DLA which ended within the last 12 months or where
    they applied before that age,but that claim was not decided. Anyone making
    a new claim over the upper age limit will instead need to make a claim for
    Attendance Allowance

    Your claim was decided that you weren't entitled but you can of course appeal that decision, as stated above.
     ......….except where they had a previous claim to PIP or DLA which ended within the last 12 months or...…. 

    It doesn't appear to matter if it was decided or not. I read it that an exception is given where there was a previous claim (for PIP) which had ended (which it did) within the past 12 months (which it did)

    The 'or' bit is another part of the exception that is immaterial.

    I must be seeing something that isn't clear then. 

    Only clutching at straws at the moment to see what alternative options I have other than an appeal.
    Spent the day researching on the net for something to give me hope.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited December 2018
    Edited by moderator
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited December 2018
    justg72 said:
    Hi Yadnad,
    I responded on another thread which was called HORRENDOUS PIP APPEAL YESTERDAY and I mentioned about going to different agencies and from no help received at all from one agency, to the other agency really supporting me and I maybe able to get representation for my tribunal. You told me the area you came from, well I have looked on google and have included the area where you live to see what support could be available for you and I came across this, Free Representation Unit (F.R.U.) for short. It stated that you would have to be referred I think by CAB and I understand that you have had problems with them. However if you go on their website which is: www.thefru.org.uk/get-advice/list-of-agencies. This is what it says on their website Providing free legal representation for the public and advocacy for junior lawyers. It mentions help and support in benefits, housing, debt etc. Have a look Yadnad and see if this covers the area where you live, it sounds great and looks like this could be the support you have been looking for and really need. Its worth  looking at their website page.
    Justg72  
    Wow!! Thanks very much. I also see that the local CAB is listed as well.

    I presume that I have to go down to the CAB first and ask them to refer me?
    Well, I'll give it a go as probably the people there will have changed over the past 5 years so unlikely that they will remember me. At least this way I'm not reliant on the CAB to give me info just contact details to actually speak to someone who is better able than me - qualified in fact - to assist with an appeal.

    Great thanks again

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,958 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2018

    Thank you for copying me in on this. I’m not going to participate further beyond my comments below, on the basis that I have repeatedly informed @yadnad that what is written in claim packs; accompanying notes; web sites; DWP guidance etc. is irrelevant. All that matters is what the law says and how the caselaw interprets that. He continues to disregard that and starts a thread with yet another thing he has found and patently does not understand.

    Edited by moderator

    Here’s the link to the regs http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/387/regulation/27/made

    Edited by moderator
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    My dear @Yadnad  I thought you was giving up on the PIP idea my friend and you was gonna live life to the full while you can, to me your just gonna make yourself more unwell keep dwelling over this obsession with PIP.

    Try and just have a nice Xmas with your wife and family 🌲 and don't let this get to you it really isent woth it, if I was your age I would love to tell the benefits people to bog off who needs **** like this at that time of life I know I don't.

    Also I've not been on here much as I've not been to well myself but I like to wish you all a Merry Christmas @Yadnad @mikehughescq and @poppy123456 and to all the Scope team and anyone else I may have forgot. God bless you all and hopefully things will be better in 2019 for us all. 🌲🌲🌲🌲😀

    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,958 Disability Gamechanger
    @Government_needs_reform and all the best to you and yours.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @Government_needs_reform thank you. Merry Christmas to you and yours too.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited December 2018

    Thanks for the advice. I thought that it would be a long shot. 
    As I have explained before, I do not believe that I would qualify for AA on the grounds of the level of care that one would need. In which case there would be no point in making a claim that is going to fail on that basis - I would be wasting my time and that of the DWP. Surely you have to have some certainty of success when applying for benefits?
    I have completed 3 PIP2 forms already so I do have experience in filling them in.
    As a member of the public that has no normal access to the regulations or case law all that I can reasonably read are the notes, explanations and advice that is put out by the DWP. I doubt many ordinary members of the public would have the time and ability to understand all of that.
     As regards the PIP appeal, I am in a position where I don't feel comfortable or capable of personally taking the claim to a Tribunal without outside help..
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    It seems like this is all you talk about. Im sorry but it's becoming continuous with you now. Plenty of people claim PIP successfully without having any knowledge of case law but you seem to make a huge task about everything you do.

    You never made any of your claims easy for yourself by insisting you stick to the DWP "rules" about the evidence being within a certain time frame. These rules don't exist. There's people that claim successfully with evidence from many years ago.

    You've said so many times that you have no intention of requesting the Tribunal for your most recent decision, unless you have representation.  Time to move on and continue with the rest of your life, don't you think? Just like you said in a past comment made by you.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • justg72justg72 Member Posts: 173 Pioneering
    Hi Yadnad, 
    Glad to be of help, I noticed in the other threads that you mentioned that you do not think that you will qualify for the Attendance Allowance. I have copied this for you it looks very similar to the PIP questions criteria.

    When completing the form, don’t underestimate you or your relative’s needs. Be realistic and note the amount of help needed on bad days, as well as on good ones. This is where a diary will come in helpful. Things to think about when completing an allowance claim form include: 

    Washing: does your relative need help getting in and out of the bath or shower, washing their hair, or shaving?

    • Going to the toilet: does your relative need help going to the toilet during the day or night? Do they suffer from incontinence? Might they need help with changing beds?
    • Getting dressed or undressed: does your relative need help with this?
    • Mealtimes: does your relative need any help with eating or drinking? Do they have difficulty operating the oven, opening cans or doing other things in the kitchen?
    • Medical treatment: do they understand which medication to take when? Can they operate medical devices (such as a hearing aid) or safely manage any illnesses (such as diabetes) by themselves?
    • Getting around indoors: does your relative need help navigating stairs, moving from room to room, getting in and out of chairs or bed? Aids and adaptations to list include a hoist, monkey pole or bed-raiser; a commode or raised toilet seat; bath rails, shower seat or a hoist to help bath or shower; a walking stick, walking frame or crutches; special cutlery or a feeding cup to help eat and drink.
    • Communicating: if your relative has poor sight, do they need help reading their post? If they are deaf, do they need help communicating? Can they hear the doorbell?
    • Supervision: is your relative in danger of falling? Do they need someone to watch over them in case they have a seizure or a fall? Are they confused and likely to put themselves in danger if no one is there to monitor them?
    I know it mentions relative, however think off yourself when answering the questions and have you a carer etc.
    Can I ask how long ago was you refused PIP? and are you within the time limit to appeal their decision?
    I would contact F.R.U. just to see how the referral service works and to see if they would be able to offer representation. Like I said before I have had two totally different experiences one agency no support and on the other hand absolutely fantastic with the second agency completing my E.S.A. form and is now waiting for my tribunal bundle to ask DWP to supersede their decision if I have strong evidence of winning my tribunal in his opinion. I also maybe able to get representation with my tribunal. Mine isn't as straight forward as theres so many errors from start to finish with my PIP claim because of errors on the report and 3 maladministration errors after the decision and this is been taken further and I have been advised I have a strong case. I understand what it is like to have no support. Please have faith in other agencies as there not all the same.
    Good luck Yadnad in what you decide to do.
    Take care    
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Thanks for all of that info.
    I will contact PRU tomorrow and see what they say.
    No I have no carer, in fact I have to care for my wife who is riddled with arthritis amongst other things - hence How can I have sufficient needs when I am a full time carer for my wife?
    My main difficulties arise from PTSD and a brain injury + difficulty walking moving about hence my stick, raised toilet seats and frame, bed riser an electric bath riser and have two hearing aids. The aids help me with my wife they were provided by Social Services. Medically there isn't that much in my body that actually works as well including being a type 1 diabetic. Still I am there for her, have to be.

    What I would say about AA and why I don't believe I fit the criteria  - the care needs have to be throughout the day at least. If I had that level of needs then I too would have to have a carer come in to look after both of us which isn't the case yet.
    The MR decision was in April this year. So I am outside the 30 day limit for appealing, but subject to having a damn good excuse for still being in the 13 month limit. My only excuse is that I couldn't cope with an appeal so left it at that.

    Thanks once again for putting me on the track to finding someone to help me.

     

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited December 2018
    It seems like this is all you talk about. Im sorry but it's becoming continuous with you now. Plenty of people claim PIP successfully without having any knowledge of case law but you seem to make a huge task about everything you do.

    You never made any of your claims easy for yourself by insisting you stick to the DWP "rules" about the evidence being within a certain time frame. These rules don't exist. There's people that claim successfully with evidence from many years ago.

    You've said so many times that you have no intention of requesting the Tribunal for your most recent decision, unless you have representation.  Time to move on and continue with the rest of your life, don't you think? Just like you said in a past comment made by you.
    Maybe they do, but don't you think that having a honest assessor might have something to do with that?

    I see it in two ways. You are either completely genned up with the whole PIP process as would Welfare Rights or just an ordinary guy. I didn't know how PIP works, I didn't know what is important for PIP. In fact I have picked up most if not all my knowledge on the subject from this site. Given that, it is a bit late now to find out these things when it would have been extremely helpful 5 years ago or even last year when I had my 3rd re-assessment.
    All I had was the claim form with the notes attached to it and the information booklet sent with it. 
    Based on those two DWP documents I assumed all of that was as it should be - the way to claim the benefit. To be now told that I should have actually ignored anything and everything that the DWP said leaves me with what? Zilch knowledge apart from what I now know.

    In your daughter's and your claim how did you find out how to make a successful claim for PIP? Was it by reading the DWP 'rules'? Or maybe from other sources that I have not had the opportunity to access until now - 5 years later?

    Oh I forgot to ask a question - are you on another website giving advice on benefits? I googled your name and poppy12345 came up with links to somewhere  else. You are listed as being an expert on welfare matters since at least 2014 and on that site you have given 4000 pieces of advice.

    So if that is you then no wonder you managed to get a good PIP result for both of you - you certainly weren't green like me and many others. Comparing others to what you achieved is then not really fair - it's like chalk and cheese.


  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,958 Disability Gamechanger
    Sigh. 

    Nothing prevents a carer from being a disabled person and vice verse. Disabled couples claiming both disability benefits x2 plus Carers Allowavce x2 is routine stuff. 

    As far as AA is concerned it is an assessment of care reasonably required and not a test of whether you medically require care or would need a carer. A person who needed 24 hour care but had no-one to deliver that care would never qualify for AA if it were based on the need for a carer or care received. 

    I’m not buying the normal member of the public with no access to the law or case law stuff either. It’s all publicly accessible and no more difficult to understand than anything else. The decision to seek guidance documents from 5 years ago is thus both conscious and perverse. 

    All of the above simple information is freely available and has been for years. 

    Still, on we potter.

    The man needs to walk into an advice service and let them do their job. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2018
    @Yadnad my knowledge has come from myself and my research, not from DWP rules. If it was was from DWP rules then that wouldn't get me very far.

    As for me being a welfare rights adviser LOLOLOL that's actually really funny. No i'm not i'm just a normal single mum, that's struggled for more than 10 years to bring up my children alone, with multiple disabilities. I actually find your question quite insulting.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I actually just googled my name myself and oh, what a surprise scope came up with over 4000 posts. Looking at myself on here, yes that will be me. Nothing about welfare rights came up.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @poppy123456

    I like you have followed @Yadnab advice and googled your name.

    I have to say Yadnad has provided a perverse and misleading impression of your status.

    By way of example, he states "on another website.. somewhere else", I can confirm you are not listed on another website, only on Scope.

    He the goes on to state, "listed as being an expert on welfare matters", again this is totally unfounded and untrue.

    Not content, he then strives with, "Since 2014 and on that site....given 4000 pieces of advice".

    You have indeed been a valuable member of this community for a number of years and provide guidance and support to our community.

    I rest my case, My Lord.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @atlas46 thank you for that! Much appreciated. I have actually reported the post.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering

    @poppy123456 I do not blame you for reporting @Yadnab post.

    I hope Scope will review his status, for such an open attempt of character assassination.

    Please keep up your sterling efforts in our community, it is valued by all of us.

  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    Well, @yadnad; someone with an incredibly identical story to yours (even down to location and previous occupation) has been posting over the years on rightsnet.   Surely a site where plenty of useful information could be picked up.   If that isn't you, then you probably want to contact them about him because someone must be pretending to be you.
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @Tardis

    Could you please put a link up.

    Be interested in what has been posted.

    Thanks
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    Recent post on this thread

    I won't identify which poster I suspect!

  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @Tardis

    Well, well and a further well.

    So he has been on Rightsnet since 2011 to the present.

    Good work @Tardis, not sure if @ mikehughescq knows about his fellow member of Rightsnet.
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    edited December 2018
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @Tardis

    Well, well and a further well.

    So he has been on Rightsnet since 2011 to the present.

    Good work @Tardis, not sure if @ mikehughescq knows about his fellow member of Rightsnet.

    Yes it's the same fella. Mike is Mike.
    ⬇️
    I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

    You can see the video here.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY


  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    I actually just googled my name myself and oh, what a surprise scope came up with over 4000 posts. Looking at myself on here, yes that will be me. Nothing about welfare rights came up.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=poppy12345&form=EDNTHT&mkt=en-gb&httpsmsn=1&refig=5c41b700867c4b13fdb8a7fcf6d05816&sp=1&qs=HS&sc=3-0&cvid=5c41b700867c4b13fdb8a7fcf6d05816&cc=GB&setlang=en-GB

    then put poppy12345
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    atlas46 said:

    @poppy123456 I do not blame you for reporting @Yadnab post.

    I hope Scope will review his status, for such an open attempt of character assassination.

    Please keep up your sterling efforts in our community, it is valued by all of us.

    I typed poppy12345 and MSE came up. Then typed poppy12345 again and thousands of postings under that name nearly four thousand. I presume this is the one and the same person.

    I only mentioned it as she seemed to know a lot more about benefit systems than would appear from her posts.

    With that number of posts + those on here she is quite proficient and it is no wonder she was able to get the awards she has unlike the rest of us who know very little. 
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @Yadnad

    Can you confirm that you have a user name of Oldestrocker on Rightsnet and you have been a member since 26 September, 2011?
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Tardis said:
    Well, @yadnad; someone with an incredibly identical story to yours (even down to location and previous occupation) has been posting over the years on rightsnet.   Surely a site where plenty of useful information could be picked up.   If that isn't you, then you probably want to contact them about him because someone must be pretending to be you.
    Rightsnet??? Now that must be a joke?

    For a start I believe that you have to be a registered welfare rights advisor to actually post on that site?
    Besides when I have read it it goes over my head  - too complicated for me.
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    Yadnad said:
    Tardis said:
    Well, @yadnad; someone with an incredibly identical story to yours (even down to location and previous occupation) has been posting over the years on rightsnet.   Surely a site where plenty of useful information could be picked up.   If that isn't you, then you probably want to contact them about him because someone must be pretending to be you.
    Rightsnet??? Now that must be a joke?

    For a start I believe that you have to be a registered welfare rights advisor to actually post on that site?
    Besides when I have read it it goes over my head  - too complicated for me.
    Quite.  Against their terms and conditions at least.   
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2018
    @Yadnad strange that because i also typed both poppy12345 and poppy123456 and the only thing that came up for me was scope.

    Besides that, what has any of that got to do with the awards myself and my daughter have for PIP? Are you jealous or something? You really are a very nasty  and jealous person.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @Yadnad

    Can you confirm that you have a user name of Oldestrocker on Rightsnet and you have been a member since 26 September, 2011?
    Yadnad has used that name on several forums.  Over the years he has posted plenty of real life information (including his name) which identifies that it is one and the same.  He pulls the 'what, little old me?' thing whenever he is rumbled.  
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    edited December 2018
    What's a matter with people here, if someone else works or posts elsewhere what has it really got to do with anyone else.

    Also with @poppy123456 be here and adding good advice, whether or not if she is or is not, someone else could just be using the same username as poppy on other sites. What the hell does it matter anyway. Jesus what is this world coming too.
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    This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
    I highlighted everything that's wrong with this country from benefits, NHS, UC etc, but now we have to put up with the hate now that is the Tories. 

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  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    Jealous is probably right Poppy.  You are clearly someone who devotes a lot of time to helping other people.  What you learn along the way, you apply, to you own cases and to others who you are helping.  Thank you for the hours you put in.
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    I wouldn't have explicitly mentioned Yadnad's postings elsewhere, if he hadn't accused Poppy of false pretences.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Tardis said:
    Yadnad said:
    Tardis said:
    Well, @yadnad; someone with an incredibly identical story to yours (even down to location and previous occupation) has been posting over the years on rightsnet.   Surely a site where plenty of useful information could be picked up.   If that isn't you, then you probably want to contact them about him because someone must be pretending to be you.
    Rightsnet??? Now that must be a joke?

    For a start I believe that you have to be a registered welfare rights advisor to actually post on that site?
    Besides when I have read it it goes over my head  - too complicated for me.
    Quite.  Against their terms and conditions at least.   
    Yes I thought so. No I do not in any way contribute to that website - i'm far too ignorant benefit wise
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Thank you @Tardis always my pleasure.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @Yadnad

    Can you confirm that you have a user name of Oldestrocker on Rightsnet and you have been a member since 26 September, 2011?
    No, not me!
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    Rightsnet requires subscription.  You will have provided details there. 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    @Yadnad strange that because i also typed both poppy12345 and poppy123456 and the only thing that came up for me was scope.

    Besides that, what has any of that got to do with the awards myself and my daughter have for PIP? Are you jealous or something? You really are a very nasty  and jealous person.
    Not at all. I couldn't understand how you were able to get your daughter's and your own awards so easy. The answer is that you seem to have had years of experience and have researched a great deal.
    Unfortunately the likes of myself and others don't have that quantity of information or experience. We, I just use the DWP notes and instructions to guide us, me.

    There is nothing wrong with being experienced or knowledgeable, but please don't assume that everyone/ me at least is.

    Nasty and jealous - not at all. I would sooner walk away from something that look for aggravation beit from the DWP or an individual (my PIP claim as an example)
    It still hasn't sunk in yet as to why the assessor wrote the report they did and why I was constantly being downgraded to 0 points after every assessment. - just don't understand the reasoning or logic behind it. In time I will put it to bed as not worth even discussing it as I did when the DWP used every trick to avoid paying my benefits for 7 years and then agreeing that I was entitled to the money BUT they could not pay it to me as I did not lodge an appeal within the 30 days time limit (I was semi conscious as a hospital inpatient at the time, so just a little bit difficult to comply).
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Tardis said:
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @Yadnad

    Can you confirm that you have a user name of Oldestrocker on Rightsnet and you have been a member since 26 September, 2011?
    Yadnad has used that name on several forums.  Over the years he has posted plenty of real life information (including his name) which identifies that it is one and the same.  He pulls the 'what, little old me?' thing whenever he is rumbled.  
    No I have not
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    That's it no more comments from me on this thread as for some reason Poppy and tardis are intent on making malicious comments about fictitious members of Rightsnet 

    I will gladly leave you all to argue amongst yourself.
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    edited December 2018
    You don't walk away though, do you @Yadnad ?  You stand on the sidelines complaining and undermining other people's confidence in fighting for their rights.  You seem to think claimants are either doomed, fraudulent, or the occasional welfare rights expert in disguise.  And you haven't put anything to bed.  You bring it up repeatedly (and this is how your accounts across all forums can be linked).  You have had some terrible experiences.  But you have a choice.  Either get on with your life, or get on with your appeal.  This self imposed limbo state is not good for you or anyone else.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2018
    Yadnad said:
    That's it no more comments from me on this thread as for some reason Poppy and tardis are intent on making malicious comments about fictitious members of Rightsnet 

    I will gladly leave you all to argue amongst yourself.
    I'd like you to quote the comments you seem to think i made about any posts on the rightsnet forum.... you won't be able to because i haven't commented about any of that.

    You're the one that started this whole thing, remember that.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Sam_AlumniSam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,731 Disability Gamechanger
    I am closing this post. Please be considerate of others feelings when posting. You can use the ignore feature if you'd rather not see a member's posts. 

    I am also deleting some posts that are against guidelines and have been found to be attacking of other members or inappropriate.
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
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