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ash5896

I’ve Just’s read this and am absolutely horrified that this is another sneaky move by the tories to get the disabled, sick and vulnerable off benefits

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Roddy

Absolutely disgraceful. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Everybody should read it.

It is bad enough that the DWP often refuse to take GP records and Hospital Specialist statements into consideration when assessing our claims. Every persons medical records should be totally confidential and not used without our full consent under any circumstances.

Furthermore if it wasn't for ash5896 making us aware of this, how would we have ever found out? Particularly those tens of thousands disabled people who are equally unaware of this site perhaps...

ash5896

Absolutely....

Government_needs_reform

@ash5896 we discussed this the other day see here and you will see many are not happy about this, including me, I will be instructing my Medical teams not to engage with this diabolical idea. https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/56521/dwp-want-full-direct-access-to-claimants-medical-records

Im going to also complain to all the relivant people.

Roddy

I don't know the reason or the cause, for all of these recently implemented 'acts' against the elderly, the sick and the disabled. Cutbacks galore throughout every department and penalising us continuously. What have any of us done to deserve this?

I can appreciate that there's no endless pot of money, and of course there are some that claim fraudulently, but that is a small minority in terms of factuality. Not many of us ask for much! Just enough to get us by and to live with a level of common decency, but recent measures, incompetent acts and inconsideration towards the disabled and ONLY the disabled, is a terrible state of affairs indeed.

wildlife

Will this mean that if we deny them access they will refuse to accept evidence from us that we've got from our own medical professionals. Then where will we be.

ash5896

It’s ridiculous! It sees we are the easy target. With all this Brexit stuff going on they are sneaking their secret agenda in. If it does happen we need to join forces and protest till it’s scrapped

Roddy

I'd like to know the 'brains' behind this idea. How such a person can sleep at night. Such people have no place in a modern-day civilised government of any party. It's unlikely that whoever it is, was elected by their voters, knowing the mind behind 'the promises' of a better tomorrow. It is shameful to the extreme.

Roddy

wildlife said:

Will this mean that if we deny them access they will refuse to accept evidence from us that we've got from our own medical professionals. Then where will we be.

They already do! How many cases are there which proves that medical professionals and hospital specialist statements, are often brushed aside and the word of a 'nurse' at a DWP assessment centre, is the decisive to determine the level of our disabilities, our illnesses and our mobility needs. These things are happening TODAY and NOW to tens of thousands of disabled people throughout the UK

michfinch

Sorry, I’m happy that they can look into my records. Anything not to have to see those incompetent ATOS Healthcare “Professionals”, who don’t have a clue about Epilepsy.

Government_needs_reform

I don't mind to a point as ive said I have very, very, sensitive Medical stuff I don't want the DWP or total strangers knowing, I give them what they need to give or not give me my benefits.

Im like a loose canon waiting to explode, I do lots of campaigning to try and bring hope for us disabled, we will and can only take so much, but one thing I can assure you when my time is up I will go out with a bang believe me when I say this, so many people are dying because of all these cruel politicians and policy's.

Roddy

On top of our own individual issues on a daily basis, I find it sad that a large majority of disabled people have justified reasons of complaint against the 'recent & ongoing' decisions made by DWP Assessments. The very people that we are totally reliant upon, and depend upon to do things right, correct and ethical. Or is this too much to ask for or to expect?

Every day, practically every post made (particularly by new members) comes another tale of discrimination for example, or for DWP/Local Authority decisions. We all seem to have experienced this at some point and especially more recently. It's effecting us all, as is evident.

mini1

Hi, we are disable people that this government don't want (can we complete against able body people No,) Note that this government gives company'stax relief if they go robotic,. To this government disable people are cost and a burden to the system., What is scary to me is that able_ body people don' realise when robots take over they're jobs , Then they're will become a burden to the government and a cost, ( We all have to unite ) .(, Please note everybody that this is just my point of view of life and how I see things....Paul...

Roddy

When caring or supporting becomes a burden, then you should not call yourself fit to be caring and supportive, or suggest that you want to provide such things. This can be said of our government in my view.

It's almost like a witch-hunt these current times. Rounded-up, herded in for assessments and then it's easier and quicker for the DWP to say 'NO' than to bother spending time. Many of these decisions have already been made by our assessor, even before they have seen us. Tapping away their well-rehearsed 'interview' on their keyboard and their questions already answered. Oblivious to the actuality of us, and in less than one hour a 'Nurse' has decided our fate and taken our faith.

michfinch

I’ve never had to rely upon the state until I had a near Nervous Breakdown and massive increase in Epilepsy and now Anxiety and Depression plus Asthma. I have paid into this system since 1978, had all the worry about paying wages etc etc as an employer, now I need help, I expect it. My Dr, the Govt appt Psycologist and my Specialist agree. Too much to ask?

Government_needs_reform

@michfinch I also have had my own Business and making a fortune, and paid many, many thousands a year in Tax, rates etc. Ive fell on hard times like many of us and there's nothing I could do.

Im totally knackered now and have to rely on the pittance I get in benefits ....To be honest I wish I didn't have to it's just sole destroying .... im getting to old for all this **** from the DWP and government.... They will not take away my last request I can guarantee that..

michfinch

I’m with you all the way. I too am getting too old for this and it’s beginning to take over my life. It’s affected my Health - I’m on more medication now than when I started this tormented DWP journey. ATOS Healthcare are basically calling all the higher qualified Medical Professionals who know me/us liars now and that they can’t do their job. ATOS are not as qualified therefore in no position whatsoever to overrule decisions made by people who are not only senior to them in Qualifications, but also know us/our history. Anyway, end of, promised myself I’d have a day off as yesterday I was incandescent with rage at “computer says no” attitudes! Good luck to all, have a peaceful day.

mini1

Another day of pain and trying to get my legs to function, life is one big tester with many hurdles in the way (pip assessment) being the highest so far, But I will not let this get me down, I’ve got two beautiful grand children that’ keeps me fighting and a reason to live .....Paul....

ash5896

I worked all my life and after an accident which caused a spinal cord injury it’s been life changing. I’ve had to jump through hops to get my PIP. You pay in all your life and when something goes wrong your brushed aside. What really annoys me how the government and DWP try and discriminate against the disabled, sick and vulnerable it’ll never change unless we stand up together. There will always be something. I know for sure they’re not getting access to my records as there is very personal information on there which does not relate to my disability so not sure why they should be allowed to see it

Government_needs_reform

michfinch said:

I’m with you all the way. I too am getting too old for this and it’s beginning to take over my life. It’s affected my Health - I’m on more medication now than when I started this tormented DWP journey. ATOS Healthcare are basically calling all the higher qualified Medical Professionals who know me/us liars now and that they can’t do their job. ATOS are not as qualified therefore in no position whatsoever to overrule decisions made by people who are not only senior to them in Qualifications, but also know us/our history. Anyway, end of, promised myself I’d have a day off as yesterday I was incandescent with rage at “computer says no” attitudes! Good luck to all, have a peaceful day.

We have rights and I fully intend to fight them with mine @michfinch it bad enough keep being persecuted by this government, as ive said I campaign on various aspects of the way Disabled and vulnerable are being treated?

This is another reason why? The Government admit.

“The National Health Service (NHS) is the national healthcare system for the UK, and is not designed to administer welfare benefits. Although doctors are responsible for issuing medical statements to patients, they are not responsible for making the decision on eligibility for benefit. For example, GPs and their representative body, the British Medical Association, have made it clear that they do not want to be guardians of the benefit system. The primary role of the GP or hospital doctor is to diagnose and treat any medical conditions that the patient presents to them and a clinician does not routinely consider the functional restrictions or disabling effects of the medical conditions that they treat. They are unlikely to have received specific training in assessing disabilities in their medical education, and may have difficulty in giving an accurate assessment or forming an opinion in relation to the functional restrictions experienced by their patient. They are also unlikely to have any knowledge of the legislative requirements in relation to benefit entitlement”

So the DWP etc, as far as I’m concerned they only need the evidence I supply, which is about my functionality NOT my deep inner personal evidence that I prefer not to disclose “Hence my full records”

Also most if many Drs etc don’t NOT know about day to day life and how we try and cope. So they can bog off.

As for the assessment providers they are a complete joke, I know a couple of people that worked for these parasites and admit the training is at best **** to say the least, I can't go to far into those reasons for now. But believe me it not your welfare they care about, these I know that worked for them have told me it's all money and bonus driven but they have all see the light realising working for those companies are certainly not what they signed up for, it was only all come to light when they started the job.

Now they all work in other caring rolls with job satisfaction and compassion to their patience.

I will I'll bring this all to light at some point in the future.

Time will tell after many of my buttons have been pushed one can only take so much before there's a breaking point.

michfinch

With Epilepsy I have terrible memory loss and I have to write everything down - if I don’t it’s lost. I like to use my on-line DWP Journal which is now like War and Peace. All I know is I was on ESA, was switched to UC and appealing both ESA and PIP. All I want to know is that someone not on a bonus sees me as a human being not a number and is qualified to overrule a Dr, a Psycologist, a Specialist etc and is Specialist in Mental Health.