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Hi been along night CARL58 having flashbacks it's the worst I've ever seen him have all grounding Technics didnt work , managed in the end gave him a couple of sleepers he's now out for the count sorry I'm on here alot but my family is in Canada, I think I've mentioned that before this is what psychiatrists, social workers etc don't understand all you get is it runs deep and difficult wanted to see a psychologist but the waiting list is so long been waiting 2yrs Already well I'm going for a nod while he's peaceful have nice day all jen