PIP back pay rates

Jurph

Hello!

I won my tribunal and I'm expecting 18 months of money to be back dated. I'm trying to work out how much to expect but getting myself mixed up.

The previous 18 months covers 3 financial years so do I need to work it out on the rate of PIP for those years? For example 12 weeks at 2017-2018 rates then 52 weeks at 2018-2019 rates then 20 weeks at 2019-2020 rates?

If so, where can I find the previous rates?

Thanks!

wilko

As you are due payment for past years the DWP will pay you the correct amounts for each year and most likely give you an explanation of the breakdown of the payments to give the total. Knowing in advance what you may, will get will only stress and cause anxiety to yourself. 

Jurph

18 months of back pay is definitely not stressing me out

April2018mom

Don’t worry about that. The DWP should hopefully be paying you all that money back slowly. That is the important thing. 

worried33

You may be able to find the 2018 rates, but I think 2017 will be hard.

2018 and 2019 here, but 2017 I think will be harder to find.

https://www.focusondisability.org.uk/personal-independence-payment-benefit-rates-2019-2020.html

buzzer

https://www.focusondisability.org.uk/personal-independence-payment-benefit-rates-2016-2017.html

https://www.focusondisability.org.uk/personal-independence-payment-benefit-rates-2017-2018.html

https://www.focusondisability.org.uk/personal-independence-payment-benefit-rates-2018-2019.html

david235

Jurph said:

The previous 18 months covers 3 financial years so do I need to work it out on the rate of PIP for those years? For example 12 weeks at 2017-2018 rates then 52 weeks at 2018-2019 rates then 20 weeks at 2019-2020 rates?

Be aware that DWP has the same right as yourself to request the Statement of Reasons and Record of Proceedings within one month. If it requests those documents, it then has the right to appeal to the Upper Tribunal if it believes the First-tier Tribunal erred in law.

It is rare for DWP to request the documents - and much rarer still for them to appeal to the Upper Tribunal, but it does happen sometimes. You cannot be certain DWP are going to implement the Tribunal's decision until they inform you of this.

If the Tribunal's award is implemented then the backdating is at the appropriate rates for each year. The 2017-18 rates are here (click).

Jurph

Thanks @worried33 - it was the 2017 ones I was missing.

Perfect @buzzer! Thank you!

Jurph

Thanks @david235 I'm aware but the DWP have already called to confirm my bank details and told me they expect payment to be made in 5-7 days and to expect a letter detailing my award.

They'd be proper gits to do that now.

david235

Ah - in that case, it sounds like they have already accepted the Tribunal's findings. Don't be surprised if the money hits your bank account before the letter hits the door mat - if often comes that way round.

Jurph

The 18 months went quite quickly compared to these 5-7 working days.

I just wanted to work out what to expect and incase of any discrepancies.

Jurph

I received my letter this morning.

I came up with a similar figure for the backpay.

However, the first page and entitlement page give the figures as the 2017-2018 rates.

So it states from January 2018 to January 2022 I'll get £55.65 for care and £58 for mobility. The monthly payment going forward is correct using today's rates though.

Also, it says on the last page 'see leaflet included' about car tax exemption and there isn't one!

buzzer

@Jurph

Jurph

Not sure what to do about these figures if I get the correct payment.

Jurph

Thanks @buzzer

david235

Jurph said:

I received my letter this morning.

I came up with a similar figure for the backpay.

However, the first page and entitlement page give the figures as the 2017-2018 rates.

So it states from January 2018 to January 2022 I'll get £55.65 for care and £58 for mobility. The monthly payment going forward is correct using today's rates though.

That would be normal. Your entitlement letter is as if the decision was made back in the 2017-18 year, so will quote the rates at the start of the award. These are subject to any increases in rates over time. My entitlement letter shows the rates for 2013-14 (my award was made in 2013 and is for an "ongoing period", which means light touch review after 10 years).

Future payments will be at the current rates, which are those quoted. There will likely be another  increase in April 2020, though there is no guarantee.

I'm so glad you've got your letter and that all is sorted. Any leaflets on vehicle tax or Motability can be missing - the information is online. @buzzer has posted the information about free tax for people with enhanced Mobility. If you got standard Mobility you need to write to DVLA - see the information under the "Vehicle tax reduction" heading of this web page on gov.uk (click).

Jurph

Thanks @david235. I'm so pleased it's all over and I can start looking forward.

Thanks for you help. It all makes sense now.

Jurph

I've just received my back pay (yay!) It matches what the award letter stated. No complaints there.

However, I have a mysterious £10 payment. It say 'DWP PIP' and the reference. Any ideas what that might be?

buzzer

@Jurph
£10 Possibly be 2018 christmas bonus 

Jurph

Thanks @buzzer! 

I didn't know about that. I was eying up a jumper in Scope charity shop so it's nice to see it go full circle!

mumofboys23

Jurph said:

I've just received my back pay (yay!) It matches what the award letter stated. No complaints there.

However, I have a mysterious £10 payment. It say 'DWP PIP' and the reference. Any ideas what that might be?

Hi just wondering how long you back pay from decision took to clear