Paper based review anyone?

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herroabii
herroabii Online Community Member Posts: 20 Connected
in PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
I have several incurable diseases, spontaneous allergic reactions that result in full body reactions and swelling, uncontrollable bowels and a carer. My carer is because I cannot go outside alone, and when anxious I get a bit mean and she is there to " stop retaliation from the general public". ( quote in care plan ) I have several conditions that affect everything in my daily life so I answered all but 2 questions ( I can read and understand signs )
I phoned pip today, as my fexofenadine 180mg has been upped from 1 to 4 a day as my face won't stop swelling so I wanted to add this to my change of circumstances. The woman said as an update I've been passed to the assessment centre. Phoned the assessment centre line, and I said I didn't add on my form I have 17 hospital appts from now until Christmas so I need to be unavailable on these dates, the assessment centre lady replied well actually we've been sent 50 extra sheets of information so we are looking at a paper based review. I did send in around 100 sheets of medical, 2 care plans, letter from 2 carers and a previous carer, a sick note, a list of my diagnosis, and several letters from several specialists saying things like " ____ is incurable, I explained it's not a magic pill you will still be unwell" 
My pip was up for review April 2020 but I was put on tons of new meds and was able to leave the house only with support so put in for a change of circumstance, never had paper based review, has anyone else and did it go well? I have always had face to face, and I can't see why they wouldn't want to see me.

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  • herroabii
    herroabii Online Community Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Just to add, when I had a MR about 6 years ago, I did send in paper evidence and went from 0 to 12 points in daily living, I didn't need a tribunal etc and my last pip assessment 4 years ago I kept my 12 points daily living but gained standard mobility, this is because I put in change of circumstance
  • Chloe_Alumni
    Chloe_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 10,506 Championing
    Hi @herroabii, a paper based assessment is rare but this is not a bad thing. If they believe they have enough evidence to make the decision without seeing you then they will issue a paper based assessment. I really hope things work out and please do let us know how you get on. :)
  • herroabii
    herroabii Online Community Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Chloe_Scope said:
    Hi @herroabii, a paper based assessment is rare but this is not a bad thing. If they believe they have enough evidence to make the decision without seeing you then they will issue a paper based assessment. I really hope things work out and please do let us know how you get on. :)
    I've had a paper review as in a MR but never like this, was just hoping it doesn't mean they're just going to say I'm not entitled anymore, but my carer did say, last time, I didn't have a care plan and all the diagnosis' so maybe now they have a ton of letters from specialists they can't disagree with them. Ugh the wait is terrible!!!! 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Hi,

    If a paper based assessment is completed, once the report has been returned to DWP you can ring and request a copy if you live in the UK. This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be because they mostly go with the report.
  • herroabii
    herroabii Online Community Member Posts: 20 Connected
    Ah right this is news to me! Didn't know I could request anything from them. Thanks a lot! :smile:
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Hi I recently had a paper based review was expecting to have f2f but had a call from decision maker who asked me few questions and then informed me they were increasing my award from standard daily living to enhanced and keeping my enhanced mobility. I was totally surprised by not having a f2f . My conditions are left leg amputation diabetes blind in one eye and glaucoma and peripheral neuropathy 

  • Chloe_Alumni
    Chloe_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 10,506 Championing
    I'm so glad to hear your award was increased @janer1967, thank you for sharing this with us. :)
  • herroabii
    herroabii Online Community Member Posts: 20 Connected
    janer1967 said:
    Hi I recently had a paper based review was expecting to have f2f but had a call from decision maker who asked me few questions and then informed me they were increasing my award from standard daily living to enhanced and keeping my enhanced mobility. I was totally surprised by not having a f2f . My conditions are left leg amputation diabetes blind in one eye and glaucoma and peripheral neuropathy 

    Ah wow that's awesome for you!? ohh do decision makers usually call? So all paper based reviews aren't bad news that's good!
    The wait is the worry!
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    No, not all decision makers call you. They will only call if they have a question to ask you before making a decision.
  • pollyanna1052
    pollyanna1052 Online Community Member Posts: 2,015 Championing
    Good post herroabii, thanks for putting it on.

    A friend of mine got a paper based decision for enhanced for both daily living and mobility. She has spina bifida and is  a full time wheelchair user and on kidney dialysis. She has a high care dependency.

    PIP isnt awarded on diagnosis/condition, but on care needs and how your condition affects you.

    I`m so pleased for you. Take care chick xx
  • herroabii
    herroabii Online Community Member Posts: 20 Connected
    @pollyanna1052 ahh see I have 2 carers that do everything for me or that supervise me to make sure I'm alright, all of my Pip assessment have had F2F so far but in the last 4 years allsorts has developed.
    When I sent this one in for example I did
    I cannot leave the house or plan any journey without another person. So, I photocopied the page of my care plan that said this was true, photocopied all my hospital letters that had I was accompanied by carer as can't go out alone, and highlighted it all for every single question I answered to. Hopefully I just gave them plenty of evidence as I'd read when there is no f2F that means you don't qualify then I obviously panicked.
     glad your friend got hers :) and thanks for the reply letting me know it's not necessarily bad news!


  • pollyanna1052
    pollyanna1052 Online Community Member Posts: 2,015 Championing
    herroabii said:I need xomeone to cook for me, get me up and put me to bed, toilet, shower and dress me. Cant go out alone and am unable to weight bear. Been
    @pollyanna1052 ahh see I have 2 carers that do everything for me or that supervise me to make sure I'm alright, all of my Pip assessment have had F2F so far but in the last 4 years allsorts has developed.
    When I sent this one in for example I did
    I cannot leave the house or plan any journey without another person. So, I photocopied the page of my care plan that said this was true, photocopied all my hospital letters that had I was accompanied by carer as can't go out alone, and highlighted it all for every single question I answered to. Hopefully I just gave them plenty of evidence as I'd read when there is no f2F that means you don't qualify then I obviously panicked.
     glad your friend got hers :) and thanks for the reply letting me know it's not necessarily bad news!
     
    Hi again. I have 42 hours a week care plan. Hubby does the rest. I need someone to cook for me, get me and put me to bed, toilet, shower and dress me, also to take me out.
    I`ve had this disability for 20 years and as yet have no diagnosis. It progressed from foot drop to total immobility within 2 years.
    Some days it`s hard to smile but I keep going.
    You take care chick xxx

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