Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
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Been offered ti go back onto Esa

Well some 6 months after winning my esa tribunal i got an offer to either go back on esa or stop on uc and get sdp payments till my circumstances change then uc will take off sdp from what they would give me.....im a little bit stuck on what to do should i stay where i am on uc jobseekers putting in sick notes till my uc sick tribunal ( prob nxt month or two as theyve asked to confirm my details are still correct) so my circumstances are going to change....
Or go back on esa and probably end up back in appeal and tribunal loop again????? 
Cit advice have said they think stopping on uc bk payment of sdp best short term solution ......however again as soon as my circumstances change then change ive lost my extra as sdp will be taken off if i go back esa with full back payments ( yes i will owe the total uc ive had..... some of which 8000 pound plus is rent so how would i claim that back if dwp take full uc amount off esa back payments before they forward the balance onto me..... which would leave me out of pocket with the rent part........ 
So basically figures around 17.5 k missed esa 
15.5k uc payments so would leave a windfall of 3 if dwp take uc out ....
Or stop uc get 6k back sdp and an extra 285 pm for month or so........
And the actual UC 7.2 k benifits     ...8.3k rent .......
Well if anyone has any suggestions then they would be gratefully received thank you 

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 22,214 Disability Gamechanger
    ESA with the SDP most definitely pays more than UC LCWRA even with the transitional payments on top. You will of course then need to claim housing benefit if you need help with the rent.

    As far as the figures go then i'll let you work that one out because it's too complicated for me and too many numbers, at least for tonight. I think you're the only person that can decide what you want to do here. The SDP rules for claiming UC do end on 27th january 2021 though.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • MarkH73MarkH73 Member Posts: 31 Listener
    Thank you poppy and yes i claimed housing benifit the last time i was on esa but whats the UC sdp change thus month??
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 22,214 Disability Gamechanger
    At the moment those that are claiming SDP are unable to claim UC. This ends on 27th January 2021, which means if a person moves house to a different local council they will be unable to reclaim housing benefit and will need to claim UC.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • MarkH73MarkH73 Member Posts: 31 Listener
    Oh ok thank you 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 22,214 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 4
    You're welcome. One other thing which is really important, which i forgot to mention.
    With the UC transitional prrotection you have, this will apply....
    If other elements of a claimant's UC award increase, there will be an equivalent reduction in the transitional element until the transitional element reduces to zero. This may mean that if, for example, a person's rent increases by £15 with a consequent increase in her/his housing cost element, s/he is no better off because of the effect on the transitional element. The only exception is childcare costs: if the amount awarded for these changes, the transitional element will be unaffected. So do be aware of that, if you decide to remain on UC.





    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • MarkH73MarkH73 Member Posts: 31 Listener
    Yeh i understand almost any change and increase will change sdp /uc entitlement and extra money basically taken off uc (which is a con in itself) but thanx for the  info .....im trying to find out if i can claim bk 22montgs rent as if i go bk on esa dwp will want to recover uc payments which are just over 7k actual money in bank and 8.5k ( or there abouts) rent so will dwp try to recover total uc and if so can i claim this bk ....local council housing cant help so on call around see what i can find out....anyhoo hope youre having a fabulous day 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 22,214 Disability Gamechanger
    I would have thought that if DWP decide to reclaim the housing element back, then it would be your local council they would need to claim it from, rather than you because the money would have obviously been used to pay your rent. Although i can't be certain that this would happen, it's just my thoughts.

    I hope you'll be able to get some definite answers. Enjoy your day :)
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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