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am i entitled sdp

hi guys, i got a letter out of nowhere the other day, saying i might be entitled to severe disablement allowance, i suffer with manic depression and schizophrenia,i am on all the qualifying benefits like ESA support group and p.i.p care, I already receive the enhanced premium and the disability premium, i live in a council house that me and my dad rent from a council tenant as lodgers or subtenants not sure what i am classed as, nobody gets carers allowance for me, i pay rent to the council tenant and so does my dad, i use the money i am already getting to pay rent, am i entitled to SDP thank you any replies would be great :)

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  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,231 Disability Gamechanger
    To get sdp you need to live alone or with someone who also claims PIP 

    But I'm not too sure you would qualify as you already get the other premiums 

    Also is your rental legit as I thought it was against council tenants agreements to be able sublet 

    I would check with welfare rights it cab anput if you are entitled to the premium 
  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    thank you so much for your reply, yes everything is above board. basically, the council tenant i live with has let the council know that i pay them a certain amount and they are fine with that, thank you i will check with cab, I will update you on what they say thank you for your help :)
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,559 Disability Gamechanger
    You won't be entitled to SDP unless the adult you live with also claims PIP, although someone could claim carers allowance for you if they provide 35 hours of care, it would be pointless checking this with CAB but if you feel the need then do go ahead
    @pabab22 welcome to scope.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    thank you so much woodbine, yes I think I won't check with cab, i was kinda sure i was not entitled to sdp, thank you so much to both woodbine and janer 1967 take care :)
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,559 Disability Gamechanger
    @pabab22 enjoy your weekend
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 4,258

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  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    yes very helpful thanks ross :) hi guys just checked an old letter from ESA and i was wrong i don't get a disability premium i get a little extra because im in the support group. i know I'm not entitled to severe and i already received enhanced but do you think I qualify for the disability premium? thank you!  
  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,325 Pioneering
    pabab22 said:
    yes very helpful thanks ross :) hi guys just checked an old letter from ESA and i was wrong i don't get a disability premium i get a little extra because im in the support group. i know I'm not entitled to severe and i already received enhanced but do you think I qualify for the disability premium? thank you!  
    Here is the eligibility:

    Disability premium

    You or your partner must be under pension credit age and either registered blind or getting:

    • Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
    • Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
    • Armed Forces Independence Payment (AFIP)
    • Working Tax Credit with a disability element
    • Attendance Allowance
    • Constant Attendance Allowance
    • War Pensioners Mobility Supplement
    • Severe Disablement Allowance
    • Incapacity Benefit

    If you do not qualify, you may still get the premium if you’ve been unable to work for at least a year.


    Source: https://www.gov.uk/disability-premiums/eligibility

  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    hi mark thanks for posting it looks as though I should be entitled, should I ring them? thanks for sharing that!
  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,325 Pioneering
    pabab22 said:
    hi mark thanks for posting it looks as though I should be entitled, should I ring them? thanks for sharing that!
    I would say if its not already part of your claim then yes give them a ring and ask and point out you meet the eligibility, come back and let me know how you get on. 
  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    ok great thanks mark ill give them a ring, ill let you know as soon as i find out :) 
  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    hi mark, called them the person first said that there isn't even a disability premium, its made up, and when i pushed it she said there is a disability premium but it's not available to me and I'm receiving everything i should get,at first she said all there is is  a severe disability then admitted, there is also enhanced which is what i get, she got a bit umpy and that's when i decided to politely end the call, I'm not sure she knew i would have the information in front of me, she seemed a bit shocked that i knew what i was getting, i dont want to jump to conclusions though she might be telling the truth im ringing citizens advice  now just  to double check thanks mark
  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,325 Pioneering
    Do you have a break down of what your ESA payment is made up of? Might be easier to work out what you currently get. 
  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    yes 
    living expenses £74.35
    enhanced premium £17.50
    limited capability for work 39.20 (at first thought this was the disability premium ?)
    total £130.65 

    i also thought that my living expenses would be higher, seems I'm getting the work-related rate?
  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,325 Pioneering
    Just remembered something, are you income based ESA?

  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    yes i think so mark and i pay national insurance contributions, so was not sure if i was contribution or income-based, but I'm assuming I'm income-based? 

  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,325 Pioneering
    If Income based then it says online that you cant receive the disability premium. That's why you only get the enhanced. 

    See the top of this page: https://www.gov.uk/disability-premiums/eligibility
  • pabab22pabab22 Member Posts: 28 Listener
    thanks mark at least i know now you have been a great help take care :) 
  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,325 Pioneering
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,271 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 25
    Hi @pabab22 - I think perhaps you're a little confused here about your ESA
    £74.35 + £39.20 = £113.55 which is the support group
                                 +£17.10  Enhanced disability premium
                             = £ 130. 65 Total
    With ESA, there's just the 2 disability premiums, the Enhanced, which you already receive, & the Severe, which you don't qualify for, sorry.
  • Girl_No1Girl_No1 Member Posts: 110 Pioneering
    @chiarieds can you clarify something regarding Enhanced disability premium?  I keep going round in circles every time I read the Gov.UK website on this, sometimes it seems I *may* qualify, and other times it seems clear I do *not* qualify.

    I claim CB ESA, awaiting assessment.  I am hopeful I will be allocated to the support group.  I also receive PIP, enhanced DL, standard Mob.  

    Given I am not entitled to any income-related benefits, does that mean I am also not entitled to EDP at all?  If I am possibly entitled, is my entitlement dependent on being allocated to the support group?

     I'm sure I've asked this before but, as I say, I keep becoming confused reading the Gov.UK site.  

    Thanks. :) 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,271 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Girl_No1 - Unfortunately disability premiums are only payable with income related ESA, & if yours is contribution based you wouldn't be eligible, sorry as far as I can see.
  • Girl_No1Girl_No1 Member Posts: 110 Pioneering
    @chiarieds thanks for clarifying that!  I was going a bit bonkers reading and re-reading the information.  Probably more in hope than realism when I was reading it that I *may* be entitled!  :smiley:

  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,271 Disability Gamechanger
    You're most welcome @Girl_No1 :)
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