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PIP QUERY

Carlbenn_88
Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
Hi everyone, my award review forms are with a case manager does it normally take much longer? they are doing a paper based assessment because I told them I will self harm if I have a phone assessment.

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  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Member Posts: 3,130 Connected
    There is no specific time scales for decision, anywhere up to 8 weeks. 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 16,330 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi 

    If your forms and evidence are with a decision maker it would suggest a paper based assessment 

    If you have not been contacted for an assessment 

    However it will friend if there is enough info for them to make a paper based 

    How do you know they are with case manager ? 
  • woodbine
    woodbine Member, Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,715 Disability Gamechanger
    @Carlbenn_88 have they told you they are doing a paper assessment or are you making an assiumption based on your request?
    Be extra nice to new members.
  • Carlbenn_88
    Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
    edited February 2021
    @woodbine because I've told them I would [removed by moderator - description of self harm method] if they put me through it. and someone called me from PIP to say it's getting done by paper based ss they have enough evidence. plus they wouldn't chance it as I have evidence of self harming. 
  • Carlbenn_88
    Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
    edited February 2021
    @janer1967 they are doing a paper based assessment. as I told them on the phone I will [removed by moderator - description of self harm method] if I have a telephone assessment. So they have obviously taken that very serious and wouldn't allow it to go a head as they have a duty of care and would take that risk. 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 16,330 Disability Gamechanger
    That's good then all you can do is wait now for the decision  

    Fingers crossed let us know how you get on 

    My last review was paper based but the DM did call me and asked a few questions before making the decision 
  • Carlbenn_88
    Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
    edited February 2021
    @janer1967 just glad there doing a paper based assessment. thought they would say if you [removed by moderator - description of self harm method] that's down to you but they have taken it that serious that they have decided to do a paper based. Does that surprise you hun ?
  • Tori_Scope
    Tori_Scope Posts: 9,540 Scope online community team
    Hi @Carlbenn_88! Just to make you aware, I edited some of your comments on this post which outlined a specific self harm method. This is for the safety of both you and our other members.

    I know that Ross has signposted you to these before, but I just wanted to remind you of the following resources:
    • Mind: how can I help myself now? 
    • Samaritans: call 116 123, or email [email protected] (you don't have to be suicidal to get in touch with them)
    • SHOUT: text SHOUT to 85258 if you prefer to speak over text
    • Calm Harm app: an app designed to help you resist or manage the urge to self-harm
    I've also sent you another check-in email, so please do take a look and let us know if there's anything more we can do to help :)
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  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 16,330 Disability Gamechanger
    No it doesnt surprise me 

    I didnt ask for paper based but due to my form being detailed and backed up with small amount of evidence they didnt need anything else 

    But mine is physical disability I am an amputee and vision impaired so they know there will be no change 

    Good luck anyway 
  • Carlbenn_88
    Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
    edited February 2021
    @mikehughescq thank you for a reply. they have confirmed to me that they are doing a paper based assessment. probably with all the new evidence I have provided. I did tell them though if I get a phone assessment I will (Removed by moderator, graphic description) . as I am getting help with my self harming! do you think that was a big factor in them making that decision for a paper based? or would that have no bearing on it. If you can reply that would be marvelous!
  • woodbine
    woodbine Member, Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,715 Disability Gamechanger
    Totally agree, whilst i think carefully before saying this, it smacks a little of "if you do this i'll do that" @Carlbenn_88 what are you going to do if the paper based assessment is not to your liking? will you drop your case and walk away? or would you go all the way from MR (which could involve a conversation) to Appeal which will involve a conversation?
    Be extra nice to new members.
  • Carlbenn_88
    Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
    @woodbine i would go the whole way as I am fully entitled to what I believe I am getting possibly more. by all means they can do a phone assessment but it's with my brother as he's my appointee. so makes no difference to me tbh. I would never give up! hopefully all the evidence is enough for them to make a decision.
  • woodbine
    woodbine Member, Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,715 Disability Gamechanger
    So it's perfectly ok for them to do a "phone assessment"? that's the direct opposite of what you started out saying is it not?
    Be extra nice to new members.
  • Ross_Scope
    Ross_Scope Posts: 7,436 Scope online community team
    I think what @Carlbenn_88 is saying is that he would strongly prefer a paper based assessment, the reasons for which have been detailed previously, however if a phone assessment was the only option then his appointed person would assist with that.
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  • Carlbenn_88
    Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
    @Ross_Scope thanks for clearing that up. that's correct! my appointee is more than happy to speak on my behalf. will keep you all posted when I get my letter. 
  • Carlbenn_88
    Carlbenn_88 Member Posts: 40 Listener
    @mikehughescq he does the phone calls for me. but if they need to ask me anything I can talk. anyway I have received my decision today and Im bloody made up!!!!

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