We took my husbands ADHD PIP claim to tribunal and won!

joey1990000

Hello I wonder if anyone on this group can help me please I have a tribunal coming up in feb I got 0 points went mr got 3 points but in there decision says I need help marketing budgeting decision but they didn’t score me no points for it I have no representation they literally saying because I can drive I can do everything please I have severe adhd depression and anxiety diagnosed since 2012 on medication for all even says doesn’t have anxiety but states in medical eveidence diagnosed anxiety since 2012 please if anyone on this group could help me prepare for my tribunal 

L_Volunteer

What would ideal help with preparing for your tribunal look like for you at the moment @joey1990000?

I want to make sure we hear you as clearly as we can and support you the best we can. I  am wishing you the best of luck with this. Please feel free to let us know how it goes 

joey1990000

As I representing myself with my mother by my side video call but I just don’t know how to argue the bits I think are wrong 

poppy123456

It's never too late to get some expert advice from an agency near you. https://advicelocal.uk/welfare-benefits

joey1990000

Have other people had pip tribunals for adhd and lost like is common for people get zero scores etc

L_Volunteer

I have seen this, unfortunately @joey1990000 How are you feeling at the moment and is there anything that might help? 

poppy123456

PIP isn't awarded based on any diagnosis, so you can't really compare anyone else to yourself. Appearing in person or telephone/video hearing will mean you have the best chance of a decision in your favour because about 70% of people have a decision in their favour.

As i don't know exactly how your conditions affect you then i can't advise whether enough of points could be scored for an award.

joey1990000

I want to know of people who have gone through tribunal for this situation 

joey1990000

I know it’s not on diagnoses but it’s like they have tried to fob it off with copy and paste same answer

L_Volunteer

I haven't been through the tribunal for this situation, unfortunately, @joey1990000. Hopefully, someone who has been will be able to respond to you soon.

In the meantime, I wanted to respond to say I hear you and your frustrations. You deserve a lot more than copy and paste 

MindPretzel

Schanios said:

Hi Everyone, I just wanted share the positive news about PIP because it is just such a long and demeaning experience. I am currently reapplying for myself, as I am undiagnosed but now wheelchair bound. 
However due to my investigation into the world of disability benefit, I realised that my husband was eligible with his ADHD. We applied for him too, got 0 points, took it to MR and got 3 points. They said that "there was no evidence of cognitive impairment", and it lit a fire under me!! 
I appealed the decision, with an 11 page essay (which took me a month to write!) schooling them on ADHD, how it is a physiological impairment that results in cognitive issues. 4 weeks later we got 21 points, enhanced rate for 6 years, and no need to go to court! To say we are delighted is an understatement. 
Just wanted to share to encourage people to keep going. It is definitely motivating me to get through my re-application. Hope you all have a lovely Easter, and that you may be able to see loved ones soon xx

Hi Schanios,

I recently applied for PIP and have recieved a net 0 score and have had the same "No evidence of cognitive..." message sent to me as well - despite being diagnosed with ADHD and Autism since I was about 6 years old!

They had the audacity to state that I "managed to complete mainstream education without support" which is a bare faced lie and quoute "You can open the door for the postman and go to gigs with friends" as if that's  the extent of the neverending and often harrowing complexities of socialising as a neurodivergent person.

I myself have written a 10 page letter of response and wonder if if you'd be up for comparing notes at all?

I have stressed that my executive function difficulties are the root of all evil in my letter however I'm concerned that while my explanation is comprehensive and well argued it still won't be enough if I haven't written them an essay on what ADHD and Autism are, or ticked their weirdly specific and frankly exclusionary criteria on what being disabled is

I'm particularly pressed on how to explain my difficulties with travelling. They seem to think you only have trouble with travel if you have a physical meltdown or refuse to travel altogether as if that mitogates the cost of taxis ordered when I lose myself to an internal time vortex

Very glad you got the result you wanted for your husband and I hope you get the right result for yourself too!

Many thanks

poppy123456

MindPretzel said:

I myself have written a 10 page letter of response and wonder if if you'd be up for comparing notes at all?

I wouldn't advise anyone to compare notes. PIP isn't about a diagnosis, what matters is how those conditions affect you. ASD is a huge spectrum and everyone will be affected differently. The same applies to all conditions.

Ten pages seems rather a lot. You don't need to tell your life story, just be straight to the point. You should include a couple of real world examples of exactly what happened the last time you attempted each descriptor that applies to you. Adding detailed information such as where you were, what exactly happened, did anyone see it and what the consequences were. Aim for at least half an A4 side of paper per descriptor that applies.

The most likely outcome of the MR will be the decision doesn't change. If this happens you can proceed to Tribunal.

anisty

I'm particularly pressed on how to explain my difficulties with travelling. They seem to think you only have trouble with travel if you have a physical meltdown or refuse to travel altogether as if that mitogates the cost of taxis ordered when I lose myself to an internal time vortex


As poppy says, you can't really compare 2 people because people are affected differently but my autistic son was awarded enhanced on mobility even though he can use one bus route independently. They know he can use the one route but that it took almost 3 years to teach him how to board a bus.


There are so many steps involved! He found it difficult to know how to queue, how to signal the bus to stop. Everything really. But he has done that same route 2 or 3 times a week for 8 years now. He has never progressed to any other route.

He wouldn't be able to use a taxi. He cannot live independently at the moment.


He sticks to the same routine week in, week out.

So that is one example of where there are awarding enhanced. Which is probably of no help whatsoever to you lol!!

L_Volunteer

I completely hear you @anisty about how practice and, almost, 'drill' can teach autistic people bus routes but that doesn't necessarily mean we would know how to go on any bus route we fancy! And, chances are, if there was a change to the route or bus number etc, we would struggle. Thank you for sharing your experience, with your son. I am sure your experience will be invaluable 

arjunsuhass

That's fantastic news! Congratulations on Winning the PIP claim for your husband's ADHD.It's a great tp see your persistence paying off. Keep up the good work!

JhonStan

Congratulations on winning your husband's ADHD PIP claim at the tribunal! It's great to hear that you were able to advocate for his rights and successfully navigate the process. ADHD can present unique challenges, and securing the necessary support through the PIP claim can make a significant difference in improving daily life and overall well-being. Your victory serves as an inspiration for others who may be going through a similar experience. Well done!

emzzzzz

This is also worrying me I'm 33 

Just diagnosed with combined type dhd described as severe 

This makes applying for the help needed vety daunting