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Do you automatically qualify for LCWRA if you receive higher rate PIP?

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lmcarthur
lmcarthur Community member Posts: 12 Listener
edited May 2021 in Universal Credit (UC)
If you receive higher rate for mobility and daily living pip do you automatically qualify for lcwra x

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    lmcarthur said:
    If you receive higher rate for mobility and daily living pip do you automatically qualify for lcwra x
    Not unless you are over pension age.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,964 Disability Gamechanger
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    Hi there 

    The answer is no they are seperate benefits have different criteria pip is about daily living and mobility lcwra is about abith yo undertake any work 

    You need to report a medical condition for ocwra provide fit notes then fill in forms and have an assessment 

    Pretty mych same sort of process as pip but different criteria looking at workplace ability 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    edited May 2021
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    janer1967 said:
    You need to report a medical condition for ocwra provide fit notes then fill in forms and have an assessment 
    Unless you are over pension age in which case getting PIP can give automatic entitlement to be treated as LCW or LCWRA.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • erin2490
    erin2490 Community member Posts: 45 Courageous
    edited May 2021
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    Sorry I read it wrong and I don't know how to delete my comment x
  • Leigh14
    Leigh14 Community member Posts: 584 Pioneering
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    @calcotti. This is rather confusing to me. How can someone claim LWRCA if they are over pension age? I thought that was for those of work age, that couldn’t work due to illness etc.
    Or is it a different case if you’re already receiving PIP, reach pension age, and then you could claim LWRCA?
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    edited May 2021
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    Leigh14 said:
    @calcotti. This is rather confusing to me. How can someone claim LWRCA if they are over pension age? I thought that was for those of work age, that couldn’t work due to illness etc.
    Or is it a different case if you’re already receiving PIP, reach pension age, and then you could claim LWRCA?
    If they are part of a mixed age couple (one pension age, one below) a person of pension age will be included on a UC claim. You are obviously correct that a single pension age person would not be claiming UC.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Leigh14
    Leigh14 Community member Posts: 584 Pioneering
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    calcotti said:
    Leigh14 said:
    @calcotti. This is rather confusing to me. How can someone claim LWRCA if they are over pension age? I thought that was for those of work age, that couldn’t work due to illness etc.
    Or is it a different case if you’re already receiving PIP, reach pension age, and then you could claim LWRCA?
    If they are part of a mixed age couple (one pension age, one below) a person of pension age will be included on a UC claim. You are obviously correct that a single pension age person would not be claiming UC.
    Thankyou for clearing that up for me. 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    Leigh14 said:
    calcotti said:
    Leigh14 said:
    @calcotti. This is rather confusing to me. How can someone claim LWRCA if they are over pension age? I thought that was for those of work age, that couldn’t work due to illness etc.
    Or is it a different case if you’re already receiving PIP, reach pension age, and then you could claim LWRCA?
    If they are part of a mixed age couple (one pension age, one below) a person of pension age will be included on a UC claim. You are obviously correct that a single pension age person would not be claiming UC.
    Thankyou for clearing that up for me. 
    It is confusing and has only applied since 2019. Before than mixed age couples had access to pension age means tested benefits but government switched it so they now only have access to working age means tested benefits (for new claims). Mixed age couples now receive less money and the working age partner is covered by work search requirement rules (which they could previously avoid).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Cher_Alumni
    Cher_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,740 Disability Gamechanger
    edited May 2021
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    You learn something new every day right?  Schedule 9 of the Universal Credit Regulations (2013), 'Circumstances in which a claimant is to be treated as having limited capability for work and work-related activity" outlines eligibility for LCWRA in claimants as including:

    Disabled and over the age for state pension credit

    5.  The claimant has reached the qualifying age for state pension credit and is entitled to attendance allowance, the care component of disability living allowance at the highest rate or the daily living component of personal independence payment at the enhanced rate.

    And, you can read more about it's application to mixed age couples in this article on 'Mixed age couples' and UC.

    Whilst, this entitled.to webpage also confirms @calcotti 's advice about changes made to benefit entitlement in 2019 for mixed age couples.  

    @lmcarthur Have the responses received helped with your question? :) 
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