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My parents are leaving and I’m being forced to move out.

AthenaAthena Member Posts: 14 Listener
My parents are moving away to a one bed flat and leaving me behind, at the moment we live in a housing association property so according to my father, the housing association has got to provide me with a flat but I don’t work as am a carer for my mum and obviously once they leave my benefits will stop. 

What can I claim? Does anyone know. 

I’m so anxious and scared, hurt and upset they’re leaving me with nothing after I’ve spent most of my adult life looking after my mother just for them to literally abandon me. 

Can anyone help? 

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  • leeCalleeCal Member Posts: 3,700 Disability Gamechanger
    Sorry to hear of your predicament 

    as far as benefits are concerned you might try using the following link
    https://benefits-calculator-2.turn2us.org.uk/
    Best wishes 
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi there and welcome to the community
    I am sorry to hear about your situation 

    What makes you think your benefits will stop . What are you claiming now 

    I would suggest you speak to welfare rights for a benefits check and also where you stand with the housing association 

    Are you a named tenant on the tenancy agreement 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,512 Disability Gamechanger
    That could be the problem Jane if the OP isn't named on the tenancy then they would probably be forced to move out, I would also suggest a chat with shelter:

    https://www.shelter.org.uk

    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • Sandy_123Sandy_123 Member Posts: 1,541 Pioneering
    @Athena sorry to read what your going through, can you speak to the housing association and see if they can offer you a flat maybe, they might have flats to rent, I don't think there abliged to offer you one because the tenancy would of been with your parents, but they might help. Maybe you could rent one to near where your parents are moving to, if you've been supporting your mom, she will still need that care.
    Hopefully u can get it sorted.

  • AthenaAthena Member Posts: 14 Listener
    janer1967 said:
    Hi there and welcome to the community
    I am sorry to hear about your situation 

    What makes you think your benefits will stop . What are you claiming now 

    I would suggest you speak to welfare rights for a benefits check and also where you stand with the housing association 

    Are you a named tenant on the tenancy agreement 
    My benefits will stop because I claim carers allowance. 

    No I’m not the named tenant but this is Wales not America and they cannot legally throw me into the street 
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi again 

    If you will no longer will be caring for your mum then yes carers allowance will stop.  Do you claim any other benefits though

    I hope you are correct about not being thrown out but I urge you to check what the ha are going to do.  As others have also said as you are not a named tenant they may not have any responsibility to rehome you 
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    I am aware your not in the USA I am only trying to help 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,512 Disability Gamechanger
    I have to say that unless your name is on the tenancy that they can and probably will expect you to leave, your anger @Athena might be better pointed towards your parents and not people who are only trying their best to give you help/advice.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,297 Pioneering
    edited July 2
    If you refuse to leave I believe they would just go down the legal route and have you removed but it would be best to engage with places such as housing associations, the local council and shelter who are best placed to advise and offer support. 

    You will be a higher priority then some because you are at risk of homelessness. 

    Unfortunately course you would lose the carers allowance if you are no longer going to be caring but then what did you expect? You can’t claim a benefit you don’t meet the eligibility for. 
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 4,038

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    edited July 2
    Hello @Athena

    I'm sorry to hear about your current situation.  I'd advise speaking with Shelter in the first instance to get more specialised advice from those trained in housing.  It might be that they recommend contacting the housing association to explore having the tenancy assigned to you if possible.  Whilst, another option would be to contact your local council to explain the circumstances and see what can be offered.  

    Benefits-wise, you can use a benefits calculator to see what your entitlement would be.  And you can use the Advice Local website to speak with a welfare representative in your area.  

    Just a reminder that all our members replying on this thread are seeking to help you.  It can be easy to get our 'wires crossed' when speaking online and misinterpret others intentions, but everyone wants what's best for you here :)

    Please let us know how you get on and good luck.  
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  • AthenaAthena Member Posts: 14 Listener
    Right slow down!!! 

    No once did I say I was expecting to be able to carry on claiming when not being a carer. That’s why I’m here… 

    And no, the Cyonon Taff DO have an obligation to rehouse me to a one bed flat. They cannot legally leave me homeless that doesn’t happen in Wales. Even if I’m not on the tenancy, the housing association will be making me leave as the house is 4 bedrooms so by law, they have a legal obligation to rehouse me. That’s not what I asked. 

    I asked what benefits I can claim while I get things sorted. 
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 1,443 Disability Gamechanger
    Athena said:

    I asked what benefits I can claim while I get things sorted. 
    Universal Credit.  You will be expected to look for work unless you have any health problems yourself.  
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    You need to help yourself here and do as suggested and contact the sources provided by everyone and not just assume you will be re housed I sure hope you are

    I don't recall you asking what benefits you can claim but speak to welfare rights as it all depends on lots of different factors or as advised do a benefits calculator 

    We can't really advise what you are entitled to without knowing all your information 
  • calcotticalcotti Member Posts: 2,217 Pioneering
    Use a benefits calculator https://www.gov.uk/benefits-calculators to see what you might be able to claim. Most likely is Universal Credit.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • AthenaAthena Member Posts: 14 Listener
    janer1967 said:
    You need to help yourself here and do as suggested and contact the sources provided by everyone and not just assume you will be re housed I sure hope you are

    I don't recall you asking what benefits you can claim but speak to welfare rights as it all depends on lots of different factors or as advised do a benefits calculator 

    We can't really advise what you are entitled to without knowing all your information 
    I HAVE contacted the housing association that’s how I know I’ll be rehoused. 
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    OK you don't need to use capitals at me as I have said I am only trying to help 

    No further comment from me I'm out of this one 


  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,297 Pioneering
    Athena said:
    I HAVE contacted the housing association that’s how I know I’ll be rehoused. 
    In all fairness you didn’t say that in the opening post, you said your father told you this, so I think everyone assumed you were not sure what would happen. 

    It’s good that the HA have said that and therefore all you need to do is engage with them and I’m sure they will have you somewhere suitable to live. 

    In terms of benefits you should use a benefits calculator as advised by others and that should help you understand what benefits you will be entitled to. 

    Good luck for the future. 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,512 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2
    @Athena i'm sure our Welsh members would be interested in a link that will tell them why a Welsh HA can't make you homeless, i've looked and couldn't see one.

    Other than that like Jane i'm out of this one now, but I wish you luck.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • Danny3Danny3 Member Posts: 16 Connected
    edited July 3
    Athena  Many people would be on your side and want to advise you as best they can in here.  We have read a lot of stories like this since the advent of the 'bedroom tax'.  Long term tenants of many years have been asked to accept smaller properties, and leave their large family homes for large families to move into.

    If your parents were being forced out of their home, this would be very unfair to them as they are the long term tenants of the property.  But because there are not enough rented homes to go around anymore, cherished homes are literally being snatched from some people who planned to live in their homes until their last breath. Other people are "persuaded" to leave their homes. Though this may or may not be the case with your parents. Unfortunately, you may not be taken into consideration for being rehoused at all.

    Basically, as tough as this may seem to you, you are seen on paper as 'hired help' who happens to live-in.  When help is no longer required by people, it would be expected that their helper would move on and find another job.  As you would if you were in any other job.  You say you don't work because you were caring for your parents.  Caring for people is work!  It's one of the hardest jobs to do. Many carers have the sole responsibility for the lives of other people. You could perhaps care for other people in future. You are obviously good at caring, or your parents would have sacked you :-)

    You don't say how old you are or whether you have children. If you don't have children, or are single and not vulnerable in any way, you are not in an advantageous position regarding being rehoused. But don't give up hope on this, because I know of a lady who was given a brand new one bed flat after being in circumstances very similar to your own. Make it clear when applying to be rehoused that you have every intention of continuing to work, as it appears more and more that people in ;key worker' jobs such as teachers, police and care-workers are given more priority.  Whether we agree with this or not, our communities need key workers on the spot, and private lets and mortgages are becoming harder to come by in this day and age.

    Because your parents are moving to a one bedroom flat, it would appear that they do not qualify for a home which would provide them with a bedroom for a live-in carer.. Or it may be that your parents have chosen to have only a one bed place, and plan on having care being given to them by people whom they do not wish to have living with them.

    Many older people and disabled people who don't have relatives nearby often offer living accommodation in exchange for part-time or full-time live-in help. Which would give you somewhere to live, and leave time during your week to be free enough to work elsewhere. If you are able to work - start looking asap. Carers are desperately needed.everywhere. If you don't wish to be a carer anymore, ask yourself what you would like to do, or start training to do.

    You may feel like the rug has been pulled out from under you by your parents, or that they have slammed a door in your face, but it is more likely that another more worthwhile door is about to be opened.    
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