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Hi, my name is natz2009! If my PIP claim is successful, can I claim SDP?

natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
edited July 3 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi everyone im new here and ive just done all my pip claim just waiting on my decision and im jist woundering if i am successful can i get sdp but i am also my father's carer (seprate address )  any help would be appriceated i have 5 children but no other adults in my house hold thanks again x

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  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @natz2009 - & welcome to the community.. Have you had an assessment yet for PIP? There's some info about SDP here: https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Severe-Disability-Premium/Can-I-get-a-Severe-Disability-Premium
    As you will see, as far as PIP goes, you need an award of the daily living component, but you need to be additionally claiming an income related benefit in order to qualify for SDP.
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    edited July 2
    Hi @chiarieds i have read all the gov websites and it says aslong as no one gets carers for me i am entitled witch no one dose i am on legacy benefits i think there called now ?? Not sure lol so i recive income support no u/c if this helps i had my telephone assesment last tuesday i am awaiting my assesment report it got sent out today as i called and requested it x
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Donno if its legacey benefits but still on the old system not universal credits thanks x
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Oh and anyone thats been waiting on there pip assesment report how long did u wait after requesting it thanks x
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2
    Hi @natz2009 - yes, if you're on Income Support (one of the legacy benefits), & get awarded either rate of the daily living component for PIP, then from the circumstances you mention, you would qualify. Kindly let us know how you get on when you receive the assessor's report. As you likely know, the decision maker usually (but not always) goes along with the assessor's recommendation. Good luck. :)
    Just to add, the average wait the DWP says it takes to get a decision is 8 weeks; some will therefore get this earlier, & some later. Getting the assessor's report might take a little time due to some postal delays, but should be within a week, tho we've had a few members wait longer.
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Thank you @chiarieds i will i have been reading all the discussions for weeks i was overly worried with the assesment but the lady i got (from capita) was absalutly lovly and advising me off the record about a few issues i am going through i know this dosent always mean a gd report but i feel it went well but still doubtfull also if i could ask anyone about the how far can u walk question as after all the other questions she asked me can i walk 3to5 meters no othere meters where asked as i said on my bad days i cant even get up my stairs just wounderd is this a standard question thanks xx
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    edited July 2
    Forgot to say this is my first time doing the hole pip thing applied feb 18th 2021 assesment 22nd june x
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    Whilst the criteria are can you walk more than 1 metre, but no more than than 20 metres (then more than 20 metres but no more than 50; more than 50 metres but no more than 200, or more than 200)? they can ask any questions they wish to get a picture of your mobility issues. Whilst many have bad days, it's how you are on the majority of days, & using stairs in your home isn't considered, it's how you are moving around outdoors.
    As with all the activities/descriptors the concept of 'reliability' is very important; so for this, could you do it safely, repeat it as often as it would be expected a person would reasonably hope to do, or did walking a certain distance take you more than twice as long as someone without your disability? This should all be taken into account if you've detailed this with your PIP claim, or, if not, during your assessment. So pain, breathlessness, fatigue, for example should be taken into account if mentioned.
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Thank you very much for that reply @chiarieds i will update more when i get my report crossing my fingers as i was erratic in the call xx
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 4,114

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    Welcome to the community @natz2009, I hope your claim is successful and fingers crossed the replies you have received so far have been helpful :) 

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  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    So got my report back today 9 for daily living and 12 for mobility but she has contradicted herself in 3 questions witch i would assume i would have scored 3 more point should i do a mr or be happy with what i have ? :s x
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @natz2009 - good to read you have got your assessment report. You will of course have to wait for your decision letter to see if they go along with the assessor's report before deciding whether to do an MR or not. Is this 3 more points for the daily living component that you feel you should have got? Most MRs stay the same & the success rate of any increase in an award is unfortunately low. However, it's rare for an award to decrease, so the option is there for you to try if you wish. :)
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Thank you and yes 3 more for daily living im unsure at this time i am really happy with the assesment and the asessor but has said in one hand i cant do ect ect but then in the second hand said i can also says i have no mental health issues but im refferd to phycoligy and on mirtazipine for severe depression that stems back to 2006 evident in my medical records to so just a bit confus3d lol and only an 18month award ? Can this be right sorry just a bit baffled xx
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    If there are errors that you can prove, then yes, unless the decision maker picks up on them, these would be worth mentioning if you went for an MR. You could also challenge the length of the award alone, or with the other points you've made. Waiting time now for that decision letter. :)
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Ty @chiarieds yes ill have time to think on what i would like to do baffels me as when i was on the phone she was the one who suggested i need phychiatry not phycoligy but said i have no mental health issues lol yes waiting waiting dwp love the waiting game lol im going to try and stay up beat i gotten really down with all the form filling and the anxiety waiting on the assesment so gonna try and stay upbeat and see what the dm decide :) i will keep u all up to date xx and thank you for all ur comments and advice xx
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    You're very welcome @natz2009 - & good for you determined to stay upbeat. :) Try & forget about it all until you get you decision letter. Do keep in touch, & thank you, an update when you've heard back will be great.
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Yes deffinetly will keep u all up to date on question 2 the assesor has put 2d was consider but then scored me 0 that would have gave me the 4 point for enhanced but we shall see what the dm has to say :) will update as soin as i get my letter xx
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Also can i ask @chiarieds dose anyone know if they do with the assesor standard daily living enhanced mobility what dose this mean for the sdp ? X thanks x
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Sorry and also has anyone had there award period extended through mr ? X
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @natz2009 - as long as you have an award for the daily living component of PIP, either rate, then with your circumstances you should qualify for the SDP (as you already receive Income Support). As far as getting a longer award, if you don't ask, you won't get it. It's for those with a condition that will stay the same, or worsen. If you don't get it with a MR, you can appeal on the length of your award alone, & that wouldn't otherwise affect your award.....so nothing to lose.
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Ty once again @chiarieds :) i shall have a long think on this and will update when my award comes through xx
  • littleacornlittleacorn Member Posts: 197 Pioneering
    I am so confussed about this questin everytime it s asked. I understand that if you get PIP enhanced rate and no one claims cares allowance for you you can claim SDP. But what I dont understand is why is someone awarded? If you claim SDP for yourself  who has enhanced PIP how can you be a carer for someone else who lives at a different address? If you could give me some examples I would be greatful? 
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    My dad comes to my home everyday all day i have set alarms in his phone and he has a doset box to remind him i make sure he is eating and is showering ect i call him up first thing in the morning and i call him at night to make sure he had his med has put his car keys away and is settled for the night in turn doing this and looking after 5 kids i forget about myself and my needs most day it os very strainuous and im bearly managing to cope and i have recently said to my dad that i dont think i can be ur carer anymore as my care needs are getting worse xx hope this kindof helps paint a picture x i used to go to hos house but my mobility is out the window and i dont drive so we switched it up a little x
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    @littleacorn my dads condition can be hit n miss some days he will have good days some will be bad after the passing of my sister 5 years ago unexpected he never been the same so he has mental health issues and he has progressive athritis so in the winter he will be worse than in the summer months if we ever get one lol so sometimes he have to get taxis insted of drive or he cant get out at all witch is when i need to try and push through what i am dealing with to help him but tbh im at my limit :( x
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    edited July 7
    And also only lives 5 minutes from each other i dont know if this was an example you where looking for lol im still not sure if im entitled to sdp because im my fathers carer xx
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @littleacorn - as far as PIP & SDP go, you only need an award of the daily living component with PIP. This can be either the standard or enhanced award. However, you also need to be getting an income related benefit such as Income Support, income related ESA, income based Jobseeker's Allowance, or Housing Benefit. Usually you have to live with no other adults, unless they too have a qualifying benefit. You cannot get SDP if another person is getting Carer’s Allowance for looking after you (or the Carer's element of Universal Credit).
    SDP is just an additional premium (payment) that can be added if you meet the above criteria (so it's not something that is 'awarded,' in the way that PIP is).
    You can be a carer for someone in your household, or as @natz2009 has kindly illustrated, someone who lives at a different address. Being a carer doesn't stop you from getting SDP with the criteria mentioned above, rather if someone else is claiming Carer's Allowance, etc. for looking after you. Hope this helps. Please see this for confirmation: https://www.gov.uk/disability-premiums/eligibility
  • littleacornlittleacorn Member Posts: 197 Pioneering
    @chiarieds it does help a little. I have 2 further questions. What if you live in a household that you were once in a relationship with but are no longer in one bht jjst cant find somewhere else to live and they are not claiming carers alllwance for you. How can someone who needs a carer for themselves be a carer for someone else?
  • littleacornlittleacorn Member Posts: 197 Pioneering
    Think after reading some of the above I have answers to my question about being a carer for someone else. Thanks everyone it is now clearer in my mind.
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Can i ask @chiarieds my report for questio  2 she has put 0 points but has put 2d was considerd but due to no mental health issues was dicided not but it is evident throughout my medical records and form mental health everywhere do you think the decision makers might go with this even though the assesor didnt ? X 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @natz2009 - I have no idea what the decision maker will go with. They tend to go with the assessor's report on the whole. I think a part of the problem is that the assessor's use 'cut & paste' answers....the nearest to what they think, but often it bears little resemblance to what a person is actually going through. This is where MRs can be useful, in giving you another chance to explain (if this wasn't evident with your initial claim form), then take it to appeal if needed.
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Ty for your reply yeah its just weird that she has stated this when its all over my medical notes and for but waiting game now for my decision fingers crossed xx
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    So got my award standard daily living enhanced mobility from feb 2021 to dec 2022 now to think what to do about mandatory reconsideration ? As i feel i should have scored points on taking nutrition and budgating decsisions glad the hard parts out the way xx
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 4,011

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    Hello @natz2009

    I'm glad to hear you've had a decision letter and have been awarded both components. 

    If you can identify and evidence which specific daily living activities and points you believe you should have been awarded, and these take you to 12+ points then you might want to proceed with a MR.  There are risks in challenging decisions, however it is rare that awards are reduced.

    If you go ahead with a MR, make sure to demonstrate why you satisfy a particular descriptor, for instance could someone who knows you well i.e. a family member or carer write a detailed account of the last time you tried the activities with them present? Also, ensure to show (if applicable) where and why there are inaccuracies with the way the DWP applied the points test.

    It's a personal decision, so do take your time and know that there's no immediate rush to decide as you can ask for a MR up to 13 months after the decision date with good reason.  

    Good luck and thanks for the update :)
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  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Thank you for the reply yeah she has stated 2d was considerd but due to no metal health input was decided against but i am currently waiting on phycoligy and am on 30mg mirtazipine for sleep and depression witch i have proof of in dr letters  so on this question alone i would have got 13 points for daily living so still 5050 on the mr xx
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,129 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @natz2009 - thank you for your update with your decision letter. If you decide to go for a MR you can use this form: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/683380/if-you-disagree-with-a-decision-made-by-dwp.PDF    adding extra pages if needed (with your name & National Insurance number on each page), or just print out a letter (again adding your name & NI number). Personally, I would get this back to the DWP within one month of the date on your decision letter. Just ask for a (free) Certificate of Posting from the Post Office, so you can prove you posted in good time, if needed.
    I wouldn't mention inaccuracies in the assessor's report unless provable, i.e. with your medical record, & say where....such & such a report, page 2, para 3, for example. Again, do the same if you decide to ask for an ongoing award. Do come back if you have any questions.  :)
  • natz2009natz2009 Member Posts: 48 Connected
    Thank you very much for your reply @chiarieds very informative and will keep this in mind if i go with a mr :) and thank you everyone for your continued help and support i shall update with any new soon :D xxx 
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