Apparently UC top-up £20 to be phased out

MarkN88

Thought I’d share. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57748815

janer1967

Thanks Mark 

Doesn't really give much detail how it will be phased out though 

MarkN88

I’d imagine it will be announced how it will work exactly closer to the time. 

lisathomas50

Thats not good thats 80 pound a month less that will be horrible for a lot of familys they takeing that away yet everything else has gone up including rent 

mikehughescq

How it’s going to work is that this is an idea floated to see reaction across the busts. May yet not happen. However, as detailed as it is at present the plan is a simple cessation from September onwards.

Luna51

I heard on the radio it was going ahead and had been already agreed, but then again that's the media reporting so who knows? 
Therese Coffrey apparently "Wants to get Britain back to work"
Which is fine fine, if you're able to work! 

calcotti

janer1967 said:

Thanks Mark 

Doesn't really give much detail how it will be phased out though 

The process need not be complicated complicated. I would expect the government will simply confirm that the standard rate allowances will reduce by £86.67/month for all assessment periods starting after a particular date.

Marie12

calcotti said:

janer1967 said:

Thanks Mark 

Doesn't really give much detail how it will be phased out though 

The process need not be complicated complicated. I would expect the government will simply confirm that the standard rate allowances will reduce by £86.67/month for all assessment periods starting after a particular date.

From what I can see the date of change is is 6 October 2021. So if your assessment period is 7th month - 6th next month then (7/9-6/10) which is paid about a week after will include the extra. If your assessment is a day later (8/9-7/10) you last higher payment will be the one in September (covering 8/8-7/9)

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/313/pdfs/uksi_20210313_en.pdf

Marie12

****i got the date wrong***

Assessment periods that end on 5th October or before get the uplift - ending 6th October or later don’t 

Standard Allowance modification

2.—(1) For any assessment period in relation to an award of universal credit, where that assessment period ends on or after 6th April 2021 and before 6th October 2021 regulation 36 (table showing amounts of elements) of the Universal Credit Regulations 2013(c), as amended by the current up-rating order, is to be read as if the amounts of the standard allowance were each increased by £86.67.

woodbine

There is some serious opposition to this from within the Tory party six former DWP secretary's have written suggesting it would be wrong, and a number of the new intake who won seats across the "red wall" are far from happy, so if there is a smell of a commons vote expect the govt. to back down in some way.

mikehughescq

That opposition pre-emptied the announcement i.e. they heard them; ignored them and announced anyway. That particular element of “serious opposition” were dismissed without so much as a second thought. 

lisathomas50

Mike is the 20.00 a week going to stop ??

mikehughescq

Well an announcement has been made to that effect but this is the first time they’ve announced anything so far in advance in 16 months so it looks to me like they’re doing their usual stunt of floating an idea publicly to gauge the reaction.

lisathomas50

Thanks Mike so just have to see then 

calcotti

Phased out is a misnomer in as much as it implies a gradual change. It is likely to be an abrupt step.

lisathomas50 said:

Mike is the 20.00 a week going to stop ??

That was always the stated intention when it was introduced.

mikehughescq

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/12/johnson-level-up-austerity-20-per-week-from-poorest?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Bonnie1234

Well, lets hope Boris gets the sack and has to claim,  what fun that would be, it is  shocking, you cannot give people something they become to rely on and then take it away, this is cruel.

woodbine

Boris is far too rich to claim UC.

mikehughescq

He really isn't @woodbine. It's one of the reasons he initially had others fund the number 10 refurb. Financially he needs to leave number 10 and get a consultancy job in the private sector as by all accounts he's struggling with child support and a few other issues at present.