Mobility descriptors don’t make sense

dumble

I’m looking at mobility and planning a journey descriptor and I just don’t understand it can someone help please?

Why is f worse and worth more points than e? E says you can’t do it at all but f says you can but with someone else.

What if you just can’t undertake a familiar journey but not only because of psychological distress? but still couldn’t do it even with another person or aid? I’m really confused by all of these. Are there examples of what they mean anywhere?

 

d. Cannot follow the route of an unfamiliar journey without another person, assistance dog or orientation aid.

e. Cannot undertake any journey because it would cause overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant.

f. Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid.

OverlyAnxious

It doesn't make sense and never has.  I am in the same position and have another online acquaintance who is as well, there seems to be a gaping chasm within that question that many of us fall into.

The best reason we can come up with for 'never going out' scoring less than 'going out with a person' is that you would have to pay more for a person to take you out, than for a person to visit you at home and run errands for you.

dumble

Username_removed said:

Why worry about it. The only relevant question is which one applies to you. 

@dumble you are saying that 1e doesn’t apply to you. You’re then saying 1f does. 

So the complication is?

Because 1f doesn’t really either because even with another person I still can’t reliably leave the house, even to places I’ve been before. 

I see why it would for other people and how having another person would aid my safety but I can’t have people with me either as it only adds to my issues. 

I do have agoraphobia but I wouldn’t say it causes “overwhelming psychological distress”, I just can’t do it. There’s no crying breakdown, I just can’t and it results in physical symptoms. There’s no way.

In an ideal world I’d have someone with me that can then mitigate some of the stresses but being that close to someone makes me physically and violently sick and triggers my OCD.

An example would be the last time I tried to go out for groceries I spent days psyching up to it,  the morning on the toilet being sick/diarrhoea and then when I was at my corner shop (stone throw down from my house), I got so unwell and dizzy in the queue I had to leave urgently before I soiled myself. I even left my bag in the shop and had to cancel all my cards because I couldn’t go back for it and never will because by then someone will have touched it and I couldn’t ask the shop for it anyway. 

But when I got outside there were people stood on the path between the shop and my house so I couldn’t go that way and everything was spinning and I ran into the road to go round the people and a car nearly hit me and had to swerve because I didn’t even notice it. It’s like I lose the ability to remember to check those things.

Realistically I know having someone with me would mean things like that wouldn’t happen, they’d stop me running into the road, and I’d not of left my bag or at least got it back. BUT I couldn’t cope with having someone there either. 

So I don’t know what applies to me. I don’t understand the descriptors. There doesn’t seem to be one that fits me or maybe I just don’t understand them at all 

Jean Eveleigh

as I have read and understood what you have written here @dumble you would meet descriptor E as your psychological distress/illnesses cause your physical symptoms

dumble

Alright so 1e and not 1f? So I’d be looking for standard mobility? Is that correct?

Sorry if I’m over complicating it, my brain just can’t seem to focus right on it. It seems very complex and I just feel like I’m missing something.

So would someone with agoraphobia that could leave the house with another person score 1f, but someone who couldn’t leave at all would be 1e? 

66Mustang

You can get awarded for help you need but don’t actually receive.

I’m not sure if this changes anything?