Has anyone received PIP based on their mental health?
Paddy90
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Hi guys, came across this website while doing some research after my pip assessment phone call today.
I suffer with mental health issues and after reading alot of posts on here it seems mental health is not taken very seriously by pip.
Has anyone received pip based on their mental health I.e anxiety, stress and depression?
Thanks
I suffer with mental health issues and after reading alot of posts on here it seems mental health is not taken very seriously by pip.
Has anyone received pip based on their mental health I.e anxiety, stress and depression?
Thanks
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Hi and welcome to the community
Lots of people claim pip for mental health but on a forum like this you don't read about the success stories as those people have no reason to look for help and advice
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Hi @Paddy90
Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, this is not my area of expertise which means I am hoping other people with more knowledge in this area can respond to you soon. However, I think it is important to keep in mind that PIP is awarded based on how things affect you daily rather than their labels. I am wishing you all the best of luck! How do you feel your PIP assessment went?0 -
Hi @Paddy90 Welcome to the community!
As Janer1967 has said, it's definitely possible to claim PIP on the grounds of your mental health. Many people with conditions such as anxiety and depression are successfully awarded.
Along with L_Volunteer, I'd be interested in knowing how you found your assessment
Do you feel you receive enough support for your mental health?0 -
Not an expert on mental health but claiming PIP for mental health is not an easy process. The PIP descriptors are more about your physical abilities or inabilities In preforming the descriptors safely in a timely manner and repeatedly. Where the mental health issues come into play in relation to the descriptors is a difficult thing to judge or have an opinion on . The question or questions that may or would be asked is what is mentally stopping or preventing you from doing or trying to manage or cope with the PIP descriptors. This question has I am sure raised concerns by claimants and those HPs at assessments, what counts towards points when conducting an assessment what is accepted and who decides.0
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wilko said:Not an expert on mental health but claiming PIP for mental health is not an easy process. The PIP descriptors are more about your physical abilities or inabilities In preforming the descriptors safely in a timely manner and repeatedly.
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Depending on how the mental health issues affect the person needing assistance, supervision or prompting are all possible needs and these apply to most of the descriptors.0
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The problem with claiming for mental health is trying to prove the practical difficulties you have because of it.
It's hard to explain that even though physically you should be able to do those things, the mental barriers can be just as restrictive, if not more so, as physical ones would be.
I do claim for mental health issues but it wasn't easy at all. And didn't cover what I'd consider my main conditions. I suffer with severe OCD (especially around food) but can only score 2 points for 'prompting' in food prep. And am agoraphobic with physical consequences (can't travel far, can't stay out long, can't enter buildings, can't use any form of public transport etc because of vertigo, nausea, IBS being triggered) but can't score any points for going out because I can go out locally for short periods alone.
The agoraphobia has now stopped me driving. It's stopped me being able to access any help, medically or with the benefits system for the last decade, and really it's stopped me having a life rather than an existence...but doesn't fit anywhere within the PIP descriptors.
What's aggravating is that when the agoraphobia gets so severe that I can't leave the house at all, I'll then be able to get points for it...it'll be too late by then!0 -
OverlyAnxious said: I suffer with severe OCD (especially around food) but can only score 2 points for 'prompting' in food prep.2
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Hi guys thanks for all the replies, appreciate you all taking the time to share you're knowledge and experiences0
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calcotti said:OverlyAnxious said: I suffer with severe OCD (especially around food) but can only score 2 points for 'prompting' in food prep.
It's the same situation as going out, if I just gave up rather than hanging on to the small amount of ability that I have left, I'd easily get the points for it. Until that point, it doesn't fit neatly into the descriptors. I have an acquaintance from another forum with very similar OCD related food issues and he couldn't score the points there either. 'Luckily' we both scored in other areas (mixing with people mainly) but there are plenty of people with food issues that don't have social issues as well.0 -
OverlyAnxious said:.. (can't use sharp knives/peelers or handle raw meat). ..1
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I claimed for mental health, however I have Autism and Paranoid Schizophrenia and feel to anxious to leave my room. I only go outside if I'm with someone due to bad social anxiety, and hearing voices/noise, fear of crowds and sensativity to noise. I only got awarded standard rate care, unfortunatley when I had my assessment though I was alone as I was in the process of switching nurses, and becuase of communication issues and anxiety I can't speak to a person I don't know so will more or less just say I'm okay and mask my symtoms or agree with the person.I should of technically done an MR as I should be awarded more, however after the stress and wait of PIP I never followed it up. I also think it really depends on the assessor you get and whether they understand you or not. As its more or less just trying to convince the assessor about how things affect you so they judge what to award. So its like luck of the draw on what assessor you get.0
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calcotti said:OverlyAnxious said:.. (can't use sharp knives/peelers or handle raw meat). ..
It was decided that I could chop veg as I can hold an Xbox controller & drive a car. The obsessive intrusive thoughts around injury/harm caused by sharp implements were not understood at all which is really what this thread is about.
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My daughter has award for OCD but only short term as they thought she'd be recovered eith 2 years of applying so going through it all again. Unfortunately Covid has made her ocd so much worse . She has contamination ocd and hasn't left the house for 6 months and reliant on husband to prepare all her meals , do laundry etc. I explained all this in her new claim but still has to have assessment. Last assessment resulted in zero points up to 6 points on MR to enhanced in appeal . I agree with others descriptor biases towards physical disability.0
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griff11 said:I agree with others descriptor biases towards physical disability.Couldn't disagree more. There's lots of people that claim PIP that don't have any physical disabilities. My daughter is one of them and claims Enahanced for both parts since 2017. Had 3 reviews since then and 2 were paper based.The majority of the time, it's down to poorly completed claim forms, with not enough of informaton and no anecdotal evidence.1
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poppy123456 said:griff11 said:I agree with others descriptor biases towards physical disability.The majority of the time, it's down to poorly completed claim forms, with not enough of informaton and no anecdotal evidence.0
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They don't need to have any knowledge of any medical conditions because it's not about a diagnosis.
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@ OverlyAnxious The driving a car so you can do everything is too overused as an excuse to deny a PIP award and as I have had the same excuse, but in my MR I suggested that driving a car is a completely different grip action than household chores and preparing vegetables.
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postmanpat68 said:@ OverlyAnxious The driving a car so you can do everything is too overused as an excuse to deny a PIP award and as I have had the same excuse, but in my MR I suggested that driving a car is a completely different grip action than household chores and preparing vegetables.0
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