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AndrewHall
AndrewHall Community member Posts: 287 Pioneering
Can someone please shed a light on this. Sorry for the rants,

I have received the DWP decision today and I am baffled to what DWP is saying, namely:
1. Needing assistance to move ingredients from the fridge to worktop doesn't count 
2. Needing to wash as opposed to wipe due to religious culture doesn't count
3. Before, they said I don't use medication, now DWP is saying my medication is not strong enough. 
4. Because I walked more than 200m three times a week, this is a majority of the time .
5. Because I able to do something later, it is ok if I cannot do it when needed. 

I can see this ending in Tribunal 

I hope @Username_removed will read this
Never allow DWP assertions to define you. They never have evidence of your true circumstances.

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,951 Disability Gamechanger
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    1/ That's correct, moving things around the kitchen doesn't count for preparing a meal.
    2/ Toilet needs/incontinence, what counts is your ability to get on and off the toilet and to wipe yourself afterwards.
    3/This will be one of the classic "copy and paste" Medication in itself won't get you a PIP award.
    4/ If you told them you can walk 200m then they will have taken this at face value, regardless of how often you can't walk that distance.
    5/ I don't understand what you mean by this. The question is can you preform the acitivities safely, repeadetly, in a reasonable time period.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    I do find it absurd that carrying items around the kitchen or carrying food to where it will be eaten is not considered as part of preparing food.
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  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,150 Disability Gamechanger
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    Is this claim about yourself, or someone else you're helping? I would have thought you understood the PIP descriptors from what you've previously said, so am a bit puzzled.
  • AndrewHall
    AndrewHall Community member Posts: 287 Pioneering
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    1/ That's correct, moving things around the kitchen doesn't count for preparing a meal.
    2/ Toilet needs/incontinence, what counts is your ability to get on and off the toilet and to wipe yourself afterwards.
    3/This will be one of the classic "copy and paste" Medication in itself won't get you a PIP award.
    4/ If you told them you can walk 200m then they will have taken this at face value, regardless of how often you can't walk that distance.
    5/ I don't understand what you mean by this. The question is can you preform the acitivities safely, repeadetly, in a reasonable time period.
    Thanks Poppy,
    In regarding no 5, DWP says "because you can bathe in the evening, you won't get points for unable to bathe in the morning due to your knee pains" 
    Never allow DWP assertions to define you. They never have evidence of your true circumstances.
  • AndrewHall
    AndrewHall Community member Posts: 287 Pioneering
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    calcotti said:
    I do find it absurd that carrying items around the kitchen or carrying food to where it will be eaten is not considered as part of preparing food.
    Very strange indeed.    
    Who is going to get 10kg of Turkey out of the freezer?
    Never allow DWP assertions to define you. They never have evidence of your true circumstances.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,951 Disability Gamechanger
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    1/ That's correct, moving things around the kitchen doesn't count for preparing a meal.
    2/ Toilet needs/incontinence, what counts is your ability to get on and off the toilet and to wipe yourself afterwards.
    3/This will be one of the classic "copy and paste" Medication in itself won't get you a PIP award.
    4/ If you told them you can walk 200m then they will have taken this at face value, regardless of how often you can't walk that distance.
    5/ I don't understand what you mean by this. The question is can you preform the acitivities safely, repeadetly, in a reasonable time period.
    Thanks Poppy,
    In regarding no 5, DWP says "because you can bathe in the evening, you won't get points for unable to bathe in the morning due to your knee pains" 
    The question is can the activity be completed at least 50% of the time over a 12 month period? 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • AndrewHall
    AndrewHall Community member Posts: 287 Pioneering
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    I think it is fair to say if you cannot do any activity under the relevant descriptors while waiting for the pains to be subsided because you have taken painkillers, this should be taken as you are unable to do it the whole day. In this circumstance, you should be seen as needing assistance under the relevant descriptors. 


    Just my opinion 

    Never allow DWP assertions to define you. They never have evidence of your true circumstances.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,951 Disability Gamechanger
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    In this circumstance, you should be seen as needing assistance under the relevant descriptors.


    Not at all. If an aid can be reasonably used you won't score points for needing assistance.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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