ESA help!

lukepat
lukepat Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone can help me. I’ve recently applied for ESA I believe it was the new style ESA and I have a few questions. I already get higher rate PIP both sections. I’ve seen some stuff about premiums but not sure I get them/how much I get on the new style ESA and when are they added to my claim? Sorry for all the questions. 

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited February 2022
    You cannot get premiums added to new style ESA.

    Premiums applied to income based ESA which has now been replaced by Universal Credit (which does not include premiums).

    Have you checked entitlement to UC? If you have a partner you both have to claim and entitlement is based on your joint circumstances. If you have capital over £16,000 you cannot claim. If you do claim it will end any older income based benefits you claim (such as Tax Credits, housing benefit etc).
  • lukepat
    lukepat Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    No single man. No partner live at home. So basically all j get is the one off payment and no premiums that don’t make sense but is what it is 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited February 2022
    lukepat said:
    No single man. No partner live at home. So basically all j get is the one off payment and no premiums that don’t make sense but is what it is 
    It’s not a one off payment, you will be paid ESA every 4 weeks.

    It make sure sense because the benefits system is changing and UC works (or doesn’t) in a different way.

    If you have no other income and are in the ESA Support Group you are likely to qualify for some UC to top up your ESA (unless you are excluded by capital). 
  • lukepat
    lukepat Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Jesus new style ESA must have really effected people who are on pip
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Hi 

    You can only get new style esa if you have paid enough ni contributions in the last 2 tax years 

    If not it will be uc if you report a health condition and are found to have lcwra after the work capability assessment there is additional element of uc paid 





  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    calcotti said:
    lukepat said:
    No single man. No partner live at home. So basically all j get is the one off payment and no premiums that don’t make sense but is what it is 
    It’s not a one off payment, you will be paid ESA every 4 weeks.

    Typo here, ESA is paid fortnightly.
    lukepat said:
    Jesus new style ESA must have really effected people who are on pip

    Not sure what you mean by this New style ESA has nothing to do with a PIP claim. There are other advantages to claim NsESA, for example it's not means tested so savings/capital do not affect the amount you're entitled to.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    lukepat said:
    Jesus new style ESA must have really effected people who are on pip
    As advised, people can claim UC instead of income based ESA. Some people get more money on UC, some get less.

    lukepat said:..live at home. 
    For the avoidance of doubt, I have interpreted this as meaning you live with your parents and therefore do not pay rent to a landlord or pay any Council Tax.
    janer1967 said:.You can only get new style esa if you have paid enough ni contributions in the last 2 tax years 
    Janer flags an important point - have you previously worked?
  • lukepat
    lukepat Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Yes previously been working! I have Bi-Polar which has really flared up! All I was saying was old style ESA If you got pip there would be a few premiums added to your benefit disability premiums etc! Looks like the new style has stopped this. Hence why people on PIp and who claim new style ESA are worse off then they was before. 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    edited February 2022
    Although you won't be worse off will you because you've not claimed the old Income Related ESA. Universal Credit has replaced the old means tested benefits and there's no disability premiums payable with this either. However, if placed into the Support Group and you claim UC as well (if entitled) as the ESA then UC would top up your income but the ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement.