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AndrewHall

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Have you got a reference for UT decision on religious requirement to stoop and wash with water

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poppy123456

Mike has stated many times that he doesn’t like to be tagged in posts. If he wishes to comment then he will.

Having said that he hasn’t posted on the community for quite a few weeks sadly.

AndrewHall

poppy123456 said:

Mike has stated many times that he doesn’t like to be tagged in posts. If he wishes to comment then he will.
Having said that he hasn’t posted on the community for quite a few weeks sadly.

Unfortunately, if Mike is no longer active here, there is hardly any good adviser left here. No longer worthwhile asking for advice here.

poppy123456

That's your decision to make, no one is forcing you to post asking questions. Mike is missed by some people but there's others here that also have great knowledge of the benefit system.

AndrewHall

poppy123456 said:

That's your decision to make, no one is forcing you to post asking questions. Mike is missed by some people but there's others here that also have great knowledge of the benefit system.

Yeah, right. To have knowledge of the benefits system is one thing, to use it to positively and genuinely assist other people is a different thing altogether. @Username_removed is a first class in both. No other people here can come even close.

janer1967

@AndrewHall thats not very nice to say there are lots of others who are very knowledgeable who give up their own time to relentless provide support to others. Mike has vast knowledge from a legal perspective I agree but please dont make comments like that about others

poppy123456

I can only take your comment as an insult to myself and others that spend so much of their valued time here trying their best to advise others, with the knowledge they have.

I have never disagreed that Mike doesn't have a huge amount of knowledge but at the moment sadly, he's not here to give any advice.

Ross_Alumni

Apologies, I was about to head into a meeting so took the decision to close this until I could respond.

As mentioned by Poppy @AndrewHall, Mike does request that users refrain from tagging him. I recognise you may not have been aware of that in the first instance which is fine, however if possible I would appreciate it if we could respect his preference.

Aside from that, of course it is your decision whether or not you want to accept the advice or support provided by other users, although it is worth keeping in mind the time given by others to answering threads on the community, whether it be to share advice or just supportive comments.

We want our community to be a safe and supportive place, please make sure your messages respect others’ views and suggestions, even if you do not agree with them. Words read through an online forum don't always convey meaning in the way that is intended, so it's always best to be mindful.

This thread will now be re-opened and it would be great if we could remain on the subject described in the opening post.

@AndrewHall, when you say "reference" what do you mean exactly? Are you looking for thoughts on what the UT will say regarding the religious requirement you mentioned in your post?

calcotti

Ross_Scope said:

@AndrewHall, when you say "reference" what do you mean exactly? Are you looking for thoughts on what the UT will say regarding the religious requirement you mentioned in your post?

He’s looking for a tribunal case about whether or not the requirements of a claimant’s religion are relevant in determining a PIP decision. My recollection is that the conclusion is that they are not. However as someone who will apparently only act negatively with no intention to help anyone I can’t be bothered to see if I can find it.

Ross_Alumni

I see, thanks for that @calcotti, I appreciate the clarification. It does seem like a complex one, I do think they should take it into account in order to be as inclusive as possible and considerate of the diverse range of people who claim, but I appreciate that there are several strands to the subject.

@AndrewHall have you considered seeking some professional advice for this query, for example through your local Welfare Rights or by entering your postcode into Advice Local.

poppy123456

calcotti said:

Ross_Scope said:

@AndrewHall, when you say "reference" what do you mean exactly? Are you looking for thoughts on what the UT will say regarding the religious requirement you mentioned in your post?

My recollection is that the conclusion is that they are not.

That was my thoughts too. I didn't give an answer because i knew what the reply would be.

calcotti

Ross_Scope said:,, I do think they should take it into account in order to be as inclusive as possible and considerate of the diverse range of people who claim..

I think the argument is that the criteria for entitlement to PIP is meant to be standardised and the activities considered are supposed to capture a range of activities (different discussion as to whether or not this is actually true or not). In that context making allowances for different claimant's cultural requirements or personal preferences is seen as not relevant.