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Donna444 said: Hi 👋 I was looking online for some answers and came across this forum. Wondering if anyone has any experience/advice they can give me. I have suffered from back pain for many years but for the last year it has worsened. If hoover one room or bed over to clean the bath I am in agony with the pain, it's in the middle and lower back. The pain is always there but becomes excruciating with certain activities, to the point I am sometimes bent over for a good 15-20mins before I can straighten up. It's a throb cramp type pain. I also experience pain in my neck and shoulders and have has 2 frozen shoulders and one occasion where my neck completely siezed up and I couldn't move it. I am mid 30s, have had no injuries/accidents. I have tried physio in the past and Dr wise they just continue to give me painkillers. It's really getting me down and impacting on my life now. Thank you for reading x
Hi Donna444,
 I have lumbar & cervical spondylosis (and waiting on MRI results to confirm spinal stenosis).  The pain you describe when hoovering resonates with me; just the slight bend forward to manage the hoover causes, as you describe, excruciating pain. That starts at the base of my spine and the longer I stand the further up my back and around my waist the pain spreads. It also goes across my right buttock and down to the front of my leg (this is what the MRI was for). The only way to relieve it is to lie down. It`s not just hoovering that causes it; cleaning my teeth to washing pots triggers the pain.
 In comparison to yourself, I`m fortunate in that "mostly" the cervical spondylosis doesn`t affect me during the day. It does, however, affect me when in bed in that the pinkie, ring and middle fingers of both hands are completely numb at times. Rearranging my pillow stops whatever was pinching the nerves.
 Like you, in the early days of my diagnosis (over 20 years ago), I was given physio which included a stretching machine; whatever was tried, just made it worse. So much so that I now refuse to let a physiotherapist anywhere near my back.
 You might not have spondylosis, but it`s something to consider.
 Andy
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