lcw to lcwra. I worked while on lcw. Will this affect my backpay?

marmite999

hi ,was on lcw now i have been awarded lcwra but i worked whilst i was on lcw,will this affect my backpay

poppy123456

If this was a review started by DWP then there will be no backdated money owed. You will receive the extra money from the assessment period in which the decision was made.
If you reported a change of condition then you will be entitled to the extra money from the assessment period in which you reported the change. 

marmite999

no not a review i was put on lcw after a tribunal,then i had to get some work as bills,i worked at got £00,00 on my journal payday,it made me ill so i went to a tribunal for lwrca and won,will the work on lcw affect my backpay

poppy123456

It will depend on how much earnings you received during each assessment period.

calcotti

marmite999 said:

no not a review i was put on lcw after a tribunal,then i had to get some work as bills,i worked at got £00,00 on my journal payday,it made me ill so i went to a tribunal for lwrca and won,will the work on lcw affect my backpay

If you received some UC payment in each of the previous months the work shouldn't make any difference. Any earnings you had in excess of the Work Allowance should already have been taken into account after you were found to have LCW and the Work Allowance applied.

If you had some months of no UC due to the earnings then the arrears may be reduced by a deduction for the excess earnings not previously taken into account.

Not clear what "got £00,00 on my journal payday" means.

marmite999

Hi guys, £00.00 means i earned too much that month so i got no uc top up.but that was in the middle of my backpay hopes

poppy123456

Whether there's any money owed during those months will depend on earnings received.

marmite999

Hi Poppy.MY CLAIM STARTED 2019,THEY PUT ME IN LCW AFTER A TRIBUNAL THEN I WORKED 4 MONTHS COLLAPSING AT WORK MASSIVE WEIGHT LOSS I APPEALED TO UPPER TRIBUNAL,THEN THEY AGRRED BACK TO LOWER I WON BUT THAT FOUR MONTHS WAS 6 MONTHS AGO,WOULD IT AFFECT THE BACK PAYMENT FOR ALL THESE MONTHS PRIOR TO MY WORK ON LCW OR JUST THE MONTHS WHERE I EARNT TO MUCH

calcotti

The fact you worked makes no difference. The only impact on what you are owed will be when you earned 'too much'. There will be a reduction on the arrears owed in those months.

marmite999

YOU MEAN I WILL GET 4 MONTHS LESS AS I EARNED TO MUCH IN THAT 4 MONTHS?

poppy123456

marmite999 said:

YOU MEAN I WILL GET 4 MONTHS LESS AS I EARNED TO MUCH IN THAT 4 MONTHS?

As advised, it will depend on how much earnings you received in each of those months.

marmite999

AROUND 1800 A MONTH

poppy123456

What was your maximum UC entitlement before the deductions? Your statements will give you a breakdown off all the elements included as well as the amounts.  It's not possible to give any advice without more information.

marmite999

BOG STANDARD 640 PM,SO THEREFORE I EARNT TO MUCH ON THOSE MONTHS AND MY STATEMENT READS 00,00 UC PAY FOR THESE MONTHS BUT THE CHAIN IS UNBROKEN THEY RESUMED MY LCW PAYMENTS ONCE I COLLAPSED

calcotti

It's more difficult to read your posts if you only use capitals.

marmite999 said:..THEY RESUMED MY LCW PAYMENTS ONCE I COLLAPSED

They are no extra payments for LCW (unless it was backdated to before April 2017).

marmite999 said:

BOG STANDARD 640 PM

There is no 'bog standard' £640/month. How is the £640 made up? Does it include help with rent?

marmite999

I know theres no extra for LCW the tribunal was about that dicision not to give me LWRCA,which I have now,and yes the 640/month is my rent too.

calcotti

So the first £335 of your earnings are ignored and there is a deduction of 55% of everything over this.

if you earned £1800 in a month the deduction would be (£1800 - £335) x 55% = £805.75.

Once the LCWRA is added to your UC your maximum amount will be £983/month so even in a month when you earned £1,800 there would some UC payable (£178).

marmite999

Yes I see that calcotti but as it was in the middle of my claim for LCWRA would I still get backpay for 
the  begining when I was not working?

poppy123456

marmite999 said:

Yes I see that calcotti but as it was in the middle of my claim for LCWRA would I still get backpay for 
the  begining when I was not working?

Yes. Working won't affect that.

marmite999

Thankyou Calcotti and Poppy.

marmite999

Oh sorry one last question?.........I got awarded by post on Thurs 31st march and they said they will inform the DWP,how long before my account changes to LWCRA and it said they advise I do not get reassessed,,,,,,,,,,,what does that bit mean