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Graded from esa to jsa

Eniskaya9

Been disabled for 15 years on pip and esa now graded to jsa and my income reduced

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MarkM88

What do you mean by graded?

Eniskaya9

Was on esa but now they have changed to jsa I am disabled and unable to work due to this change my benefit has been reduced

Sue_Alumni

Good morning @Eniskaya9

Please could you provide some further information to help me understand your question.

How was your ESA award made up ? Did you have the Support Group or Work Related Activity component? Did you have any premiums ?

Was your ESA contribution based or income related or a combination of the two - contribution based ESA "topped up" with income related ESA?

Did you have a work capability assessment? If so, what happened?

You say your benefit has been reduced? By how much ?

calcotti

Do you mean that you recently had a new Work Capability Assessment and were found Fit for Work. I'm not clear how you could go from ESA to JSA - I would have thought if your ESA ended you would have to claim UC because I wouldn't expect you to qualify for JSA.

Sue_Alumni

I agree. From the post it sounds as if the work capability assessment was recent but the OP needs to confirm if it was before the closure of the SDP gateway on 27 January 2021. Otherwise, I am at a loss to understand why the OP was not told he had to claim UC.

Eniskaya9

I am disabled receiving high for mobility standard for daily living was receiving esa as in work related activity group for last 13 years with no notice they reduced my esa which I claim for me and my wife whom is disabled from £221 aweek to £89 aweek

calcotti

Eniskaya9 said:

I am disabled receiving high for mobility standard for daily living was receiving esa as in work related activity group for last 13 years with no notice they reduced my esa which I claim for me and my wife whom is disabled from £221 aweek to £89 aweek

In your opening post you said you had been moved to JSA. Now you are saying you have had your ESA reduced. It is not possible to offer advice without clarity about your situation.

Have you got any breakdowns of the ESA amount of £221/week and of the £89/week amount?

What disability benefit does your wife receive?

Have you spoken to ESA to ask them why the amount has changed?

Has there been any other change in your household income?

Eniskaya9

See attached please

calcotti

I'll reply properly in a moment. In the meantime I've flagged your post and asked a moderator to blank out the personal information you have inadvertently posted in the images.

Ross_Alumni

Hi @Eniskaya9

Thanks for your posts, and I hope you are well today.

I just wanted to quickly hop in here and let you know that I have removed your recent screenshots from the thread as they contained personal information, which is against our house rules. If you would like to upload those kind of images it is always best to blank out any identifiable information such as name, DOB, NI number, address etc beforehand

calcotti

Your previous calculation shows ESA made up of the standard allowance, the WRAG component, 2 x Severe Disability Premium and 2 x Carer premium. Your actual payment is reduced by two lots of Carer’s Allowance and some other deductions. None of ESA is indicated as contribution based.

However as you and your partner are receiving Carer’s Allowance for looking after each other then neither of you are entitled to the SDP which has removed £136.80 from the later calculation.

The earlier calculation appears to be wrong.

(This has nothing to do with JSA nor to do with a reassessment.)

Eniskaya9

Thanks so much

calcotti

Should add - my previous answer assumes that you receive Carer's Allowance for looking after your wife and that she is getting Carer's Allowance for looking after you. If either or both of you are getting the Carer's Allowance for looking after someone else then the answer will be different.

How long have they been paying you the higher amount?

Eniskaya9

Since beginning about 13/14 years

calcotti

Eniskaya9 said:

Since beginning about 13/14 years

And you have both been getting PIP and both been claiming Carer's Allowance for each other all this time too? (You didn't actually confirm whether the two Carer's Allowance are for you to look after each other.)

Eniskaya9

Yes we did

calcotti

It doesn’t make sense to me that you received the Severe Disability Premium all of this time. One of the requirements of being entitled to Severe Disability Premium is that nobody receives Carer’s Allowance for looking after you.

Eniskaya9

I don't understand the whole thing when my wife was diagnosed with cancer that's when I claimed carers allowance for her when my arthritis got really bad where she was helping me with my daily needs that I couldn't do she claimed carers allowance for me because she does things for me that i can't do and I help her with things she can not manage 8 stead of getting g carers comi g to look after us an costing the NHS arm and a leg

calcotti

So that suggests that you were not claiming Carer’s Allowance for each other throughout the ESA claim in which case your ESA entitlement would be different at different times.

Difficult to comment further without a full history of the claim.

Eniskaya9

Thaks for your help

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