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Thought this might cheer some people up

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flour
flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
edited October 2022 in Coffee lounge
Thought I'd share this here incase it cheers anyone up.

Please delete if not allowed! 
Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
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  • Biblioklept
    Biblioklept Community member Posts: 4,948 Disability Gamechanger
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    I'm not sure it's loading @flour
  • flour
    flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
    edited October 2022
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    No its not! Will try to fix it
    Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
  • leeCal
    leeCal Community member Posts: 7,550 Disability Gamechanger
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    So it’s made me laugh already 😉

    “This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.” 
    ― Dalai Lama XIV

  • flour
    flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
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    See if its there now? @Biblioklept @leeCal
    Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,958 Disability Gamechanger
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    Haha love it! :D
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • flour
    flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
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    D
    Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
  • flour
    flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
    edited October 2022
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    Sorry. I've seen its in cost of living. Perhaps it shouldn't be in this area of the forum?
    Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
  • Alex_Alumni
    Alex_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,561 Disability Gamechanger
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    I've popped it over into the Coffee Lounge @flour thank you for sharing, someone spent some time editing that! 
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  • emancherry33
    emancherry33 Community member Posts: 3,640 Pioneering
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    @flour very funny put a smile on my face
  • leeCal
    leeCal Community member Posts: 7,550 Disability Gamechanger
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    Nor can I @Ada 🤣

    “This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.” 
    ― Dalai Lama XIV

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 55,484 Disability Gamechanger
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  • Geoark
    Geoark Community member Posts: 1,471 Disability Gamechanger
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    I definitely think there is some room for appeal there. Under medication the decision maker just repeated she can eat and drink. So either she has a drink problem, or just plain not taking her medication.

    I also believe she has difficulty processing complex information provided verbally, enough people informed her financial planning would not work, in a straight forward plain English way, and she totally failed to understand what was being said.

    Mixing with others, she seems to make a pariah of herself where ever she goes, suggesting she does have issues mixing with others.

    Under mobility, she definitely qualifies the first section, as she seems totally incapable of planning a route out of her house, and is getting support from those who know her to do this.

    Second part, while her mobility is generally good, she does need to be guided when turning around, or to put it another way do a U turn.  She also seems to have a problem of getting out of the way of slow train crash making her very vulnerable.

    Thank you for a good laugh @flour

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,958 Disability Gamechanger
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    @Geoark hilarious! Thanks for the laugh! :D
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • SueHeath
    SueHeath Community member Posts: 12,420 Disability Gamechanger
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  • flour
    flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
    edited October 2022
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    @Ada @leeCal @Sandy_123 @Biblioklept

    Its a mock PIP decision letter. Its there as a pdf on my first post. But I'll copy it here to read in case its not showing up. She's awarded standard rate daily living with 8 points in dressing and undressing and making budgeting decisions, as she struggles with this (in last paragraph of the decision)!


    Personal Independence Payment 22
    Correspondence Handling Site C
    Wolverhampton
    WV99 9EN
    Liz Truss
    10 Downing St 
    London
    SW1A 2AA

    Your reference: SW861949A

    Personal Independence Payment

    I’ve looked at your claim and decided to award you Personal Independence Payment

    ________________________________________

    Dear Liz Truss,

    Thank you for claiming Personal Independence Payment (PIP), this claim was made on your behalf by another person close to you.

    PIP is made up for two parts: help with daily living needs and help with mobility needs.

    I’ve looked at your claim and decided:
    • I can award you the standard rate of £61.85 a week to help with your daily living needs from 6 September 2022 for an ongoing period
    • at this time I can’t award you PIP for help with your mobility needs from 6 September 2022
    Daily Living - for the 10 daily living activities you scored:
    ________________________________________
    Preparing food (scored out of 8)
    You can prepare and cook a simple meal unaided. 0
    ________________________________________ 
    Eating and drinking (scored out of 10)
    You can eat and drink unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Managing your treatment (scored out of 8)
    You can eat and drink unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Washing and bathing (scored out of 8)
    You can wash and bathe unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Managing your toilet needs (scored out of 8)
    You can manage your toilet needs or incontinence unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Dressing and undressing (scored out of 8)
    You need prompting or assistance to be able to select appropriate clothing. 2 
    ________________________________________
    Communicating (scored out of 12)
    You can express and understand verbal information unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Reading (scored out of 8)
    You can read and understand basic and complex written information either unaided or using glasses or contact lenses. 0
    ________________________________________
    Mixing with other people (scored out of 8)
    You can engage with other people unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Making budgeting decisions (scored out of 6)
    You cannot make any budgeting decisions at all. 6
    ________________________________________
    Your total score for the daily living part of PIP is 8 points.
    This means I can award you PIP for help with your daily living needs at the standard rate. You’ll receive this for an ongoing period.

    Mobility - for the 2 mobility activities you scored:
    ________________________________________
    Planning and following a journey (scored out of 12)
    You can plan and follow a route of a journey
    unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Moving around (scored out of 12)
    You can stand and then move more than 200  meters either aided or unaided. 0
    ________________________________________
    Your total score for the mobility part of PIP is 0 points. This means I can’t award you PIP for help with your mobility needs.

    My decision

    I made my decision using information about your health condition or disability including details of any treatment, medication, test results and symptoms. This information is the best have available and enough to decide how much help you need. As your needs vary, my decision is based on the help you need most days. You said you can manage preparing food, taking nutrition, managing therapy or monitoring a heath condition, washing and bathing, managing toilet needs or incontinence, dressing and undressing, communicating verbally, reading and understanding signs, symbols and words, engaging with other people face to face, making budgeting decisions, planning and following journeys and moving around. However, I disagree and I have looked at other information including information supplied by people close to you and those who know you best.

    I agree you have no difficulties with preparing food, taking nutrition, managing therapy or monitoring a heath condition, washing and bathing, managing toilet needs or incontinence, communicating verbally, reading and understanding signs, symbols and words, engaging with other people face to face, planning and following journeys and moving around. There are no reported physical restrictions. Informal observations showed that you have good use of your upper and lower limbs. You engage well, maintaining good rapport and eye contact, without evidence of withdrawal, agitation or anxiety and without requiring prompting. Throughout you had no difficulty expressing or understanding verbal communication. There is no specialist input. You were observed to walk freely and unaided at a reasonable pace and were reported to walk regularly around central London. A musculoskeletal exam was not carried out.

    You said you have no difficulties and based on all the available information I have decided that you do have difficulties with dressing and undressing and making budgeting decisions. I’ve decided you cannot make complex budgeting decisions or budgeting decisions at all and you need assistance to make any budgeting decision. However, this is help which you need and do not get. You said you had no difficulty with this. However based on the information from those who are close to you and know you best, information available in the relevant history and notes, I have decided you do have difficulty with this. You were reported to have difficulty understanding the value of money including small sums of money such as the value of a pound. You also demonstrated severe difficulty in understand how and when to appropriately spend money and manage your budget. In addition, you have difficulty with dressing and undressing. You cannot select appropriate clothing and need assistance from another person to do this activity. You said you can manage this. However, as reported and from the informal observations you have difficulty in choosing appropriate clothing. You were observed to be wearing inappropriate clothing, chosen by you in connection with former prime ministers for all types of activities and functions and you need help to manage this. This is help which you need and do not get. This was reported to be the case on the majority of days. Based on informal observations as well as those reported, whilst you demonstrated good memory and concentration, you did not demonstrate good cognition, intellect and insight. I cannot consider any help you need not covered by the actives for daily living and mobility, including use of taxis or public transport.

    Yours sincerely 

    Decision Maker

    Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
  • flour
    flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
    edited October 2022
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    @Geoark

    Haha! I think theres grounds for a mandatory reconsideration?
    I'm wondering if really it should be Enhanced Daily Living and Standard Mobility. Mobility could be difficult as
     There is no specialist input. You were observed to walk freely and unaided at a reasonable pace and were reported to walk regularly around central London
    Which descriptor were you thinking of!? Having the whole country turn on you must be distressing...
    Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
  • leeCal
    leeCal Community member Posts: 7,550 Disability Gamechanger
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    Now I understand. Ha ha. 

    Ive never felt pity for a prime minister before. Someone, anyone , please take her away!

    “This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.” 
    ― Dalai Lama XIV

  • Lisatho11987777
    Lisatho11987777 Scope Member Posts: 5,911 Disability Gamechanger
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    I feel sorry for liz truss 
  • flour
    flour Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
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     I'm glad it cheered a few people up. 
    Remember that people come on to this forum who may be in a vulnerable state and kindness goes a long way. Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
  • Biblioklept
    Biblioklept Community member Posts: 4,948 Disability Gamechanger
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    I feel sorry for liz truss 
    I do too a little bit, it must be really difficult to have made so many mistakes so publicly in such a short amount of time 
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