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Pension deducted from ESA

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Apollo14LMP
Apollo14LMP Community member Posts: 63 Connected
Hello,

Hope everyone is good this afternoon.

I wanted to ask if anyone knows the formula the DWP use for occupational pensions deducted from IR ESA.

I got a letter from the DWP stating I was in receipt of a occupational pension of £ 55.22 
I had not told them of .. despite telling them 7 years ago and them deducting this from my ESA penny for penny for 7 years.

Hmrc told them... i knew thst already.

I was told by DWP years ago pension would not count .. always get independent advice ! I needed the small cashpot as i was forced to move due to hate crime so it is what it is ... 

Then gets another letter stating they are deducting 66.00 per week as pension deduction... ??? 

Clearly wrong, rang them said they would ring back 3 times ... 3 hr call back  . 

10 days later a call tells me I am right ...

I get 238 47 a month .. 2861 46 a year.

Question is do they use a monthly formula for deductions or 52 weeks as there is a difference.

2861.46 / 52 = 55.03 

238.47 / 4 =  59.62

How much should the DWP be taking,
,?  answers on a postcard ... lol.

Disgraceful service Sorry I depend on this department for survival ! 

I would appreciate any comment on the  formula if anyone knows thank you 😊


Regards to all... 




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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    edited October 2022
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    Pension income is deducted in full from income based ESA.

    For contribution based ESA there is a deduction of 50% of any pension over £85/week.

    If your pension is paid monthly they will turn it into a weekly amount by taking the monthly amount and multiplying it by 12 and then dividing by 52.

    £238.47/month is therefore £55.03/week. 

    (There are more than 4 weeks in a month.)

    There is never any financial benefit from taking pension income while receiving working age means tested benefits.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Apollo14LMP
    Apollo14LMP Community member Posts: 63 Connected
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    Thank you for the advice.  if the amount deducted is wrong again I can challenge them.
    Disgusting way they treat people ..
    Had to cash it in ... needed the small pot to move had no choice sadly ... 
    Saving the DWP money monthly is bad enough, being stuffed after doing so leaves a bad taste ....

  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,982 Disability Gamechanger
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    You are welcome @Apollo14LMP. It is the very least you deserve. 

    I can hear that it is disgusting the way they treat people. Really frustrating but positive that you feel able to challenge them if needed. 

    How are you feeling about things at the moment? If we can do anything to support you please don't hesitate to reach out to us.

    We are all here for you and listening to you. You don't have to face this, or anything else, alone if you don't want to. 

    Similarly, I am wondering if you would like to tell us more about how you are feeling about the move at the moment. 

    Sending you hugs, I can hear your frustrations  <3
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  • Apollo14LMP
    Apollo14LMP Community member Posts: 63 Connected
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    Thank you for the advice and support. 
    I have heard from the DWP and the deductions being made are excessive by 11.00 pounds a week or 520.00 plus yearly if I had not noticed.
    It is a battle to fight them, they tried to screw me before till a firm of solicitors sorted them. Out of court settlement agreed with the DWP... i won them...
    This has all taken a toll on the health and welfare of me and my family.
    Support here advice provided us without parallel.
    Angry with this government call it what you will.
    Can spend a fortune on bogus health assessments, and more screwing the sick, frail and disabled..
    I could write a book on my experiences about claiming PIP, ESA no one would probably believe the story and put my tale down as a fiction book.
    My health is bad enough without the DWP making it worse.
    Cant even add a persons pension out and make the correct deduction !
    Would be different if i owed them cash though ... 
    The conservatives there day will come soon ....
    Sooner gone the better.... 



  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,982 Disability Gamechanger
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    You are welcome @Apollo14LMP. It is the very least you deserve. 

    I can hear your frustrations and stress, especially with the impact on you and your family. Really positive to hear you finally won though.

    Please feel free to keep us in the loop with how things are going for you and if you need any support in the meantime. We are all here for you and listening to you  :)
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