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MEANS TESTING?

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emc123
emc123 Community member Posts: 76 Courageous
Hi, Not a political debate Please :-( 

As Means-tested benefits are available to people who can demonstrate that their income and capital are below a certain level

1st,    (IF), PIP was ever to become a Means Tested benefit, would it be classed as income & Deducted from UC? 

2nd,  Would it mean PIP 'Could' be disallowed because UC is an Income,
(even if unable to work&receiving LCWRA).

Please note I'm not asking for speculation as to whether this will Happen nor am I interested in the political arguments,
just need an example of how Means Tested works in general?
As in,  IF PIP was ever included in Means Testing Would the above be the correct scenario?
        To explain it to me better you could use another benefit Already Means Tested as an example  :-)   
             Many Thanks in advance All xxx

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  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 12,112 Disability Gamechanger
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    Personally I am a great believer in taxing PIP.

    2024 Election won

  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    edited November 2022
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    How they work is how the rules state they work when they are passed. Your question is no way of answering your question.

    There are currently no income based benefits except Council Tax Reduction which can be based at the same time as UC because UC has replaced them
    all. CTR does not provide income so doesn’t provide any information to inform your question.

    If PIP were ever to become a means tested benefit it would be more logical for it to incorporated into UC.
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,115 Disability Gamechanger
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    This is a question that’s impossible to answer.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Cartini
    Cartini Community member Posts: 1,108 Pioneering
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    emc123 said:
    Hi, Not a political debate Please :-( 

    Please note I'm not asking for speculation as to whether this will Happen nor am I interested in the political arguments,
    You can`t avoid a political discussion over the means testing of PIP.  The very nature of making non-means tested benefits means-tested means you need to encroach on politics.

    All people can do is offer you speculation; since you don`t want speculation your question won`t be answered.
  • racyguy
    racyguy Community member Posts: 560 Pioneering
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    Well, if that goes ahead for any benefit that either my wife or I claim (PIP & AA) I will end up in the very same position as my issues with Pension Credit. The very idea of means testing these benefits will require me to produce updated monthly reports of all changes in income with relevant evidence received (1p or more) if we want to continue to receive them.
    Not happening! So, our income would be drastically reduced because the Pension Service/DWP will not offer any changes to the rules due to disabilities.

  • emc123
    emc123 Community member Posts: 76 Courageous
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    Thank you for all your responses I'm single and only income is lc8and Enhanced pip both components with no savings so I'm thinking I'd not be effected if this Were to happen x 
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,982 Disability Gamechanger
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    You are welcome @emc123. Our responses are the very least you deserve.

    As you can see, hopefully, it won't happen. Please don't hesitate to let us know if we can do anything else to support you though  :)
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  • Binky1234
    Binky1234 Community member Posts: 438 Pioneering
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    If PIP were to means tested then I think I would not be entitled to it cos of hubby's earnings.

    I also get contribution esa and in support group. I think I would be fine with that.

    Don't think they would make PIP means tested tbh
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  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,982 Disability Gamechanger
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    Thanks for sharing your response with us @Binky1234 :)
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