Disabled Bus Pass usage times help!

Discordia

Hello! I've recently been awarded standard daily and enhanced mobility PIP due to a seizure disorder. I have visited my local council website (Shropshire) to apply for a bus pass. However, it states that the pass can only be used between 9.30 and 11.00 am on weekdays. Does this mean I have to make both outward and return journeys between these times, or can I, for example, travel out at say 10.00 am and retun late afternoon for free? It's not specific in this regard and I can't find anything to explain this elsewhere. Can anyone help to clarify please? Thank you in advance for any help. 

poppy123456

It means you will not be able to use it after 11am, however, that does seem a rather short time to be able to use the pass and would give you so many restrictions. Are you 100% sure this is what it said on the website? I've heard of passes not being able to be used in rush hour, so before 9 or 9.30 am.

Discordia

Thank you fo such a quick reply! It may be the medication fogging my comprehension, this is the text from the website itself: 

"This is issued free of charge and entitles the holder to free travel on all local bus services in England as follows:

• 9:30am and 11pm, Monday to Friday
• All day at weekends and on bank holidays

Subject to eligibility, Shropshire bus passes can also be used for free or reduced fares for essential journeys undertaken on community transport schemes in Shropshire."

poppy123456

Yes, as i thought it's until 11pm. It's starts at 9.30am because that will be after rush hour, which is correct. Just so that you're aware, if you've been refused a driving license because of epilepsy then you don't need a PIP award to be entitled to the disabled bus pass.

Discordia

Oh my god I can't believe I kept reading it as am instead of pm! My brain is literally Swiss cheese lately. Thanknuou for your help and patience, I'm going to triple check everything going forward!

Steve_in_The_City

I may not know what I am talking about, which is par for the course, but I have applied for a disabled persons bus pass and it gives unlimited bus travel 24/7 anywhere in the country (and I think here in London on the tube and local trains). The usual Freedom Pass (with the Rose Emblem) comes with time restrictions, but not the disabled pass. 

poppy123456

Steve_in_The_City said:

I may not know what I am talking about, which is par for the course, but I have applied for a disabled persons bus pass and it gives unlimited bus travel 24/7 anywhere in the country (and I think here in London on the tube and local trains). The usual Freedom Pass (with the Rose Emblem) comes with time restrictions, but not the disabled pass. 

It will be different rules for all areas. The disabled bus pass where i live can only be used in my area. It can't be used anywhere else in the country.

Cartini

Steve_in_The_City said:

I may not know what I am talking about, which is par for the course, but I have applied for a disabled persons bus pass and it gives unlimited bus travel 24/7 anywhere in the country (and I think here in London on the tube and local trains). The usual Freedom Pass (with the Rose Emblem) comes with time restrictions, but not the disabled pass. 

poppy123456 said:

Steve_in_The_City said:

I may not know what I am talking about, which is par for the course, but I have applied for a disabled persons bus pass and it gives unlimited bus travel 24/7 anywhere in the country (and I think here in London on the tube and local trains). The usual Freedom Pass (with the Rose Emblem) comes with time restrictions, but not the disabled pass. 

It will be different rules for all areas. The disabled bus pass where i live can only be used in my area. It can't be used anywhere else in the country.

Hi poppy & steve,

I applied for a concessionary bus pass (and received) and it can be used throughout England (not Wales or Scotland).

It`s valid from 09:30 to 23:00 weekdays and all hours over a weekend and Bank Holidays.

Steve_in_The_City

I had a closer look at the T&C's of the disabled Freedom Pass. Here in London it is valid on buses 24/7, not on trains travelling through London until 9.30 weekdays, I don't know about the tube, and in other parts of the country (England, I assume) subject to their local rules. So I am just going to apply for the usual pensioners Rose bus pass. Apologies for my totally useless intrusion upon this subject!

Tori_Scope

My brain is literally Swiss cheese lately.

This made me smile today @discordia

And there's no need to apologise @Steve_in_The_City! It's a good opportunity to learn something

Hannah_Alumni

Hello @Discordia

I am happy to hear it is PM and you have that freedom in the day to be able to go here and there on the bus. Is it just errands? or do you have some nice things planned in your area you are thinking of attending?

rubin16

I have a Disabled bus pass and it gives me access to Trains, trams, bus's and any other transport in my area 24/7. It also gives me free bus travel anywhere in england.

calcotti

poppy123456 said:

Steve_in_The_City said:

I may not know what I am talking about, which is par for the course, but I have applied for a disabled persons bus pass and it gives unlimited bus travel 24/7 anywhere in the country (and I think here in London on the tube and local trains). The usual Freedom Pass (with the Rose Emblem) comes with time restrictions, but not the disabled pass. 

It will be different rules for all areas. The disabled bus pass where i live can only be used in my area. It can't be used anywhere else in the country.

I’m very surprised at that. I thought that a disabled person bus pass issued in England should be valid throughout England under the English National Concessionary Travel Scheme under the Concessionary Bus Travel Act 2007 whereas prior to that act use was limited to the issuing authority.

(Obviously if you are outside England that will not be relevant.)

poppy123456

calcotti said:

poppy123456 said:

Steve_in_The_City said:

I may not know what I am talking about, which is par for the course, but I have applied for a disabled persons bus pass and it gives unlimited bus travel 24/7 anywhere in the country (and I think here in London on the tube and local trains). The usual Freedom Pass (with the Rose Emblem) comes with time restrictions, but not the disabled pass. 

It will be different rules for all areas. The disabled bus pass where i live can only be used in my area. It can't be used anywhere else in the country.

I’m very surprised at that. I thought that a disabled person bus pass issued in England should be valid throughout England under the English National Concessionary Travel Scheme under the Concessionary Bus Travel Act 2007 whereas prior to that act use was limited to the issuing authority.

(Obviously if you are outside England that will not be relevant.)

Thanks Calcotti. I live in England. Had I known that at the time when my daughter had her pass I would have questioned it. It doesn’t matter now because she no longer uses the bus. 

Steve_in_The_City

The Freedom Pass bearing the Rose emblem is valid throughout the country (by which I mean England as I have no idea about our other nations) and I believe time restrictions are placed upon it weekdays.

A disabled Freedom Pass bearing the Rose emblem will only be issued to pensioners (as far as I know). Here in London the over 60's can get a free Oyster card giving travel on bus, tubes and trains with time restrictions, lifted at weekends. When I got my free Oyster card there were no time restrictions but restrictions were put in place a few years ago. A disabled version is available, I think, but would only be valid in Greater London. It may be that disabled people under pension age are given a card for their local transport network, and then upon becoming pensioners would have to apply for a disabled Freedom Pass bearing the Rose emblem.

I spoke with my council about this. They told me the disabled Freedom Pass (for pensioners) can be used 24/7, but advice from my council isn't always reliable.

Cartini

Steve_in_The_City said:

The Freedom Pass bearing the Rose emblem is valid throughout the country (by which I mean England as I have no idea about our other nations) and I believe time restrictions are placed upon it weekdays.

A disabled Freedom Pass bearing the Rose emblem will only be issued to pensioners (as far as I know). Here in London the over 60's can get a free Oyster card giving travel on bus, tubes and trains with time restrictions, lifted at weekends. When I got my free Oyster card there were no time restrictions but restrictions were put in place a few years ago. A disabled version is available, I think, but would only be valid in Greater London. It may be that disabled people under pension age are given a card for their local transport network, and then upon becoming pensioners would have to apply for a disabled Freedom Pass bearing the Rose emblem.

I spoke with my council about this. They told me the disabled Freedom Pass (for pensioners) can be used 24/7, but advice from my council isn't always reliable.

Hi,

"You can travel free on TfL services with your Older Person's Freedom Pass from 09:00 weekdays and anytime at weekends and on bank holidays.

If you have a Disabled Person's Freedom Pass, you can still travel at any time on our services."

Taken from:

https://tfl.gov.uk/fares/free-and-discounted-travel/freedom-pass

Steve_in_The_City

@Cartini Thank you for the info. I was under the impression that only buses were included in the disabled pass, so this is very useful for me to know. I will let my Freedom Pass application go through (it shouldn't be long now) and if I should get steadier on my feet and more able to cope on my lightweight tri-walker, then travel will be possible for me and at that point a disabled Freedom Pass will be useful. I don't know how I missed the info you have given, but I did.

Cartini

Steve_in_The_City said:

@Cartini Thank you for the info. I was under the impression that only buses were included in the disabled pass, so this is very useful for me to know. I will let my Freedom Pass application go through (it shouldn't be long now) and if I should get steadier on my feet and more able to cope on my lightweight tri-walker, then travel will be possible for me and at that point a disabled Freedom Pass will be useful. I don't know how I missed the info you have given, but I did.

I`m glad to help you - now get steady on your feet and put your travel head on

calcotti

Steve_in_The_City said:.

A disabled Freedom Pass bearing the Rose emblem will only be issued to pensioners (as far as I know).

I am not pension age. My disabled person concessionary bus pass is issued outside London, includes the rose emblem and is valid for local free bus across all of England. It doesn’t allow me free use of the London Tube unlike the Freedom Pass which is specific to London.