I've moved in with my partner. Will I still get lcwra

bigaxedwarf
bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
edited December 2022 in Universal Credit (UC)
I’ve moved in with my partner I just had lcwra awarded in July as we made a joint account for uc will I still get lcwra as my conditions haven’t changed I have the enchanted rate of pip also for both sections please help 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Yes you will still receive the LCWRA element which will be included in your maximum UC entitlement. 
    However, if your partner already receives the LCWRA element on your claim you will only receive one, rather than 2. 
    If your partner cares for you for at least 35 hours per week then they can claim carers element for looking after you. 
    They will need to report a change of circumstances and tell them they care for you and your UC maximum entitlement will increase by a further £168.81/month.
    If your partner works you will have the work allowance which means a certain amount of earnings per month will be disregarded before the 55% deductions apply. 
    If you claim for help with the rent it will be £344, if you don’t it will be £573.
    Whether there’s any entitlement to UC will depend on earnings received each month.
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    He works we don’t get help with rent so how much will I get is it £573 work allowance I’m confused 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    edited November 2022
    As you don’t claim for help with the rent then yes your work allowance will be £574. This means your partner can receive that amount of money from earnings each month before the 55% deductions apply.
    Whether there’s any entitlement to UC after the deductions will depend on their earnings.
    I can’t tell you whether there’s any entitlement because I don’t know your circumstances. 
    You can both use a benefits calculator to check entitlement. https://www.entitledto.co.uk/benefits-calculator/Intro/Home?cid=1f9f40b2-1730-468b-a953-9d46391973d1
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    Where does the joint claimant allowance come in I don’t get how it all works 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    The work allowance applies because you have LCWRA. So for example if your partner receives £1,000 per month earnings then £573 of that will be ignored before the deductions apply. The remainder of the earnings will then reduce your UC by 55%. 
    If there’s just the 2 of you with no dependent children then your standard couples allowance will be £525.72/month if at least one of you is over 25. Then there’s the LCWRA element of £354.28. There’s also the carers element of £168.81/month if they look after you for at least 35 hours per week.
    Have you put both your details into the benefits calculator above? If not then please do that or speak to an advice agency near you for a full benefits check. 
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    Thank you  I’m not sure where the letter has gone as it was on my journal since we made the joint account it seems to have gone why is that? I can’t find it 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Which letter are you referring too? When you make a joint claim it clears all your history, including statements. 
    Have you put both your details into the benefits calculator linked above?
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    Yes I’m on about the lcwra letter will they still know I have lcwra 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Yes it should still be linked to your name. 
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    That’s good then 
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    my partner earns 1,400 I have lcwra how much would we get 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    edited December 2022
    my partner earns 1,400 I have lcwra how much would we get 

    In an above comment you said you don't claim for help with the rent, if this is correct then your work allowance will be £573/month.
    If at least one of you is over 25 then standard allowance is £525.72 + LCWRA £354.28 + carers element £168.81 ( if no one else claims this or carers allowance for looking after you) and providing your partner looks after you for at least 35 hours per week.
    Total UC before deductions is £1,048.81. Earnings £1,400 - £573 (work allowance) £827 x0.55 = £454 deductions.
    £1,048.81 - £454 deductions. Total amount UC payable is £594.81.
    Please also remember that UC is based on earnings received during your assessment period. If your partner receives more earnings you will receive less UC. If less earnings, you'll receive more UC.
    My advice is also based on all the information you gave.
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    So I would get £594 uc altogether 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    edited December 2022
    So I would get £594 uc altogether 

    Yes. You will then have your partners earnings and your PIP. Remember what i said here.

    Please also remember that UC is based on earnings received during your assessment period. If your partner receives more earnings you will receive less UC. If less earnings, you'll receive more UC.


  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    Thanks for your advice 
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,922 Championing
    You are welcome @bigaxedwarf. It is the very least you deserve.

    Please don't hesitate to let us know if we can do anything else to support you. We are all here for you and listening to you  :)
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    Thank you can I also add that my partner cares for me but he can get the allowance is there anything he can do 
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    He can’t get to alliance sorry 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    edited December 2022
    He can’t get to alliance sorry 

    Do you mean carers allowance or carers element? If no one else is claiming either carers allowance or carers element of UC for looking after you then yes your partner can claim this, as i advised. Your partner does not need to claim carers allowance to be entitled to carers element.
    They will need to "report a change of circumstances" then tell them that they care for you for at least 35 hours per week. The £168.81/month will then be included in your maximum UC entitlement. I already included that in the calculation above.
  • bigaxedwarf
    bigaxedwarf Online Community Member Posts: 76 Listener
    Can he still work and claim the amount I get the enchanted rates of pip does it come automatically