Cold Weather Payments

Luna51

Hello all.. 

Hope you are all managing to stay warm, and on that theme, can I ask do the cold weather payments (£25 per 7 days of low temps) only apply to daytime temperatures (as where we are, we are in for some really cold nights this week ❄️❄️)
I'm sure it's the case but can't recall?
Many thanks.. 

calcotti

https://www.gov.uk/cold-weather-payment

You’ll get a payment if the average temperature in your area is recorded as, or forecast to be, zero degrees celsius or below over 7 consecutive days.

Luna51

Thank you @calcotti

Jarvis

Please can you tell me why  people on DLA  are not eligible for any benefits  whays so ever  even the winter fuel money thsnkyou Barbara

bg844

Jarvis said:

Please can you tell me why  people on DLA  are not eligible for any benefits  whays so ever  even the winter fuel money thsnkyou Barbara

Claiming DLA does not disqualify you from claiming other income-related benefits.

poppy123456

Jarvis said:

Please can you tell me why  people on DLA  are not eligible for any benefits  whays so ever  even the winter fuel money thsnkyou Barbara

The winter fuel payments are for those that were state pension age on or before 26th September 2022.

Whether you're entitled to any means tested benefits will totally depend on your circumstances.

poppy123456

Luna51 said:

Hello all.. 

Hope you are all managing to stay warm, and on that theme, can I ask do the cold weather payments (£25 per 7 days of low temps) only apply to daytime temperatures (as where we are, we are in for some really cold nights this week ❄️❄️)
I'm sure it's the case but can't recall?
Many thanks.. 

A payment has been triggered in my area and other areas of England and Wales. You can check if there's one for your area here. https://coldweatherpayments.dwp.gov.uk/ assuming you're claiming a qualifying benefit of course.

Luna51

Hi @poppy123456

Yes, just checked and it's flagged up in my area too, my middle daughter is eligible, as she gets LCWRA. 
I can happily sit with a hot water bottle but she has mobility issues so needs to keep warm. 

Have a good weekend. 😊

poppy123456

That's good, every little helps. My daughter and myself are eligible this year so that's £50 which will be paid straight onto my energy account. It means i can keep my heating on for longer. My health condition means cold weather makes it worse.

Luna51

It really does help. 
We had two cold weather payments last year as one was also for my youngest because she was on my UC claim (with a disability) but was 19 this year so is not on my claim anymore. 
(but as mentioned in other posts we're making a claim for her now) 

Sorry the cold weather makes your condition worse, look after yourself, we need you here.. ❤️

gjw59help

Once again many people have been left out in the cold regarding these payments if you have long term illness and on Contribution Based ESA you miss out and who knows why,in fact those on Income Related Benefits are getting the most money now,crazy!

gjw59help

Slightly ignorant comment that,I wish I was getting "income related" as it says I am entitled to on my letter but "as I have paid my contributions I will get the same amount" but I don't get the extra help that those do who have not contributed,understand yet?

poppy123456

gjw59help said:

Slightly ignorant comment that,I wish I was getting "income related" as it says I am entitled to on my letter but "as I have paid my contributions I will get the same amount" but I don't get the extra help that those do who have not contributed,understand yet?

I don't see any ignorant comments. You were previously advised in another thread of yours that if you were claiming Income Related then you would be a lot worse off. As you're entitled to contributions based then this increases your income. You can see the full explaination on your other thread here. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/88566/income-based-versus-contribution-based-benefits/p1

Because you contributed with your NI contributions then you do receive more than if you hadn't contributed.

gjw59help

Then why does it say I am entitled to an income related amount of £117 a week but because you have made contributions you still get £117 a week,that in itself isn't the problem because it is called CB we are not entitled to any of the extra Government payments that IR claimants get,see my point yet!

poppy123456

gjw59help said:

Then why does it say I am entitled to an income related amount of £117 a week but because you have made contributions you still get £117 a week,that in itself isn't the problem because it is called CB we are not entitled to any of the extra Government payments that IR claimants get,see my point yet!

This was also already determined in that other threrad i linked to above. ESA letters are very well known to be extremely difficult to understand. Your CB ESA is worth more than Income Related.

Nope, sorry but i do not see your point. If you were claiming IR then you would be a lot worse off than you are now. You're living with your partner who claims their state pension so any IR would be affected by her SP.

Please take another look at the thread linked above at calcotti's first comment. She's done a benefits calculation for you and if your ESA was Income Related you would be receiving £90.70/week. As you're entitled to CB then you receive £117.60/week. That significantly better off in my eyes.

Edit to point out that thread was from Feb 2022 which was before the April Increase so the CB ESA has increase slightly from then.

gjw59help

in my last reply it explains that I would be entitled to an IR amount which is the same as my CB amount therefore the DWP are wrong or you are,yes my wife gets her basic state pension but that should not affect my ESA it didn't before she retired why should it now

poppy123456

gjw59help said:

in my last reply it explains that I would be entitled to an IR amount which is the same as my CB amount therefore the DWP are wrong or you are,yes my wife gets her basic state pension but that should not affect my ESA it didn't before she retired why should it now

Your wife's state pension will affect any entitlement to IR ESA which is why you're claiming CB!

calcotti

gjw59help said:..,yes my wife gets her basic state pension but that should not affect my ESA it didn't before she retired why should it now

Well obviously it didn’t before because she wasn’t getting it before. SP for wife is deducted in full from income based ESA but doesn’t affect contribution based ESA.

gjw59help

Well thanks for your replies but I am still confused and frustrated perhaps it is my DWP letter saying I am entitled to an IR amount which is the same as my CB amount,that's what I see but without the extra help that IR claimants get,I am in the Support group by the way so I would still be entitled to enhanced premiums on IR according to Gov website,feels like discrimination to me,cheers anyway

poppy123456

Yes you are entitled to IR and the Enhanced Disability premium is included in the calculation. 

However because your wife is claiming state pension that’s deducted from your ESA. It has nothing to do with discrimination. You’re ESA is more than it would be if you were claiming IR. 

I really don’t know how else to explain it because we’ve been here many times. 

gjw59help

Okay so bearing in mind the DWP say I am entitled to £117 a week IR but because I have paid enough contributions I will get £117 CB ie "same amount" what do you reckon the reduction would be "wife on basic state pension" if I didn't get CB ESA?