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Working less than 16 hours?

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Lostsoul13
Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
in Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
I’m due to have an induction tomorrow for a job at boots, cleaning… I will be working an hour and 15 minutes everyday from Monday to Friday..  my understanding is you can earn up to 152£ a week.. I’ll be on minimum wage or there about..
are there any forms to fill out or do I just ring dwp and inform them of hours and work-

my jobs payroll has my national insurance number so I suppose everything will be updated from their side- I’m paid weekly with a week in hand… 


regards 

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2022
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    You should inform ESA using PW1 form (if that is what you are claiming).
    See
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-permitted-work-form/permitted-work-factsheet

    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • Lostsoul13
    Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
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    Thanks , a public body does ‘boots’ count as a public body although the job is going through an agency?? 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,587 Disability Gamechanger
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    Lostsoul13 said:
    Thanks , a public body does ‘boots’ count as a public body although the job is going through an agency?? 

    Public body? There's no rules on where you can or can't work, providing you work less than 16 hours per week and earn no more than £152/week after deductions.
    You do need to be aware that if the work you do contradicts the reasons why you're claiming ESA then it could go against you when you're next reassessed.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • Lostsoul13
    Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
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    I’m on it for schizophrenia so won’t contradict- it will only be 5 hours and 45 minutes a week.. 

    just on the form you have to send esa it says about public body ect mentoring you through the job??? 
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  • Lostsoul13
    Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
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    If any work I’d accepted should be ok if you can confirm this?? Have you had experience? 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,587 Disability Gamechanger
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    If no one is monitoring you (more for supported permitted work) then you answer no. I can't tell you if any work you do would contradict the reasons why you're claiming ESA because i have no idea about how your conditions affect you.
    I've never done permitted work myself.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2022
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    Lostsoul13 said:.. 
    just on the form you have to send esa it says about public body ect mentoring you through the job??? 
    That’s a question that is asked because some people may be in that position. It’s not a requirement and rarely applies. You can completely ignore the Supported Work section on page 5 (see the description on the front page).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • Lostsoul13
    Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
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    Ohh okay, I probably can take breaks if the voices get to much, I may get off hallucinations now and then but I’ve learned to understand it’s schizophrenia… so copping well with it.. I’ll find out tomorrow who’s going to be giving me an induction.. I’ve half way filled it out.. I got confused about the permitted work and the form.. but if any job as long as less than 16 hours & 152£ - I should be okay.. I have the Depo injection so I can’t give it to my self so I think I should still qualify in the review… 
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  • Lostsoul13
    Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
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    calcotti said:
    Lostsoul13 said:.. 
    just on the form you have to send esa it says about public body ect mentoring you through the job??? 
    That’s a question that is asked because some people may be in that position. It’s not a requirement and rarely applies. You can completely ignore the Supported Work section on page 5 (see the description on the front page).
    Okay I’ll do that then and see if it works- have you done work and claimed benefits using method you instructed? 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    Lostsoul13 said:
    Okay I’ll do that then and see if it works- have you done work and claimed benefits using method you instructed? 
    No.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • Lostsoul13
    Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
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    calcotti said:
    Lostsoul13 said:
    Okay I’ll do that then and see if it works- have you done work and claimed benefits using method you instructed? 
    No.
    Oh, but you know people that have? Been successful using method? 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    Lostsoul13 said:
    Oh, but you know people that have? Been successful using method? 
    It’s not a matter of being successful using this method. The law says that you are allowed to do permitted work but you are required to inform DWP. The form is the way of informing them.

    The section about supported work goes back to a time when there were different rules for supported work and ‘ordinary’ work (the latter was time limited). Supported work now seems irrelevant.

    The only potential issue is if the work contradicts the reason you have been found to qualify for ESA.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • Lostsoul13
    Lostsoul13 Community member Posts: 59 Listener
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    Ok, will give it a whirl . Thanks so much for your information and inputs..
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  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,978 Disability Gamechanger
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    You are welcome @Lostsoul13. It is the very least you deserve.

    Please feel free to let us know how it goes and if you need any further support. We are all here for you and listening to you  :)
    Community Volunteer Adviser with professional knowledge of education, special educational needs and disabilities and EHCP's. Pronouns: She/her. 

    Please note: if I use the online community outside of its hours of administration, I am doing so in a personal capacity only.
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