The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    imagine waking up to him . He makes my skin crawl

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 314 Pioneering

    hi

    New in here, gone through the green paper and obviously it’s atrocious.

    One thing I’d say that hasn’t got much or no attention is paragraph 53 and 54 regarding the new Insurance Employment.

    It is very badly written, and I believe it’s on purpose.

    Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.


    this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.

    So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Charlie Anderson gives a run down of the green paper regarding PIP ( only pip) . She’s also going to be doing future videos on this . Love her or hate her she seems quite knowledgeable so could be of help

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 314 Pioneering

    hi

    New in here, gone through the green paper and obviously it’s atrocious.

    One thing I’d say that hasn’t got much or no attention is paragraph 53 and 54 regarding the new Insurance Employment.

    It is very badly written, and I believe it’s on purpose.

    Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.

    this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.

    So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.

  • neil12345
    neil12345 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Connected

    Can anyone answer this . I'm on lcwra will it be reviewed before the changes ? Also what month and year will this end ? Next question when the pip new changes start year and month

  • Hopeless
    Hopeless Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 977 Pioneering
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,124 Championing

    @Danny123 Appoy for PIP. Write up your answers and gather all medical evidence in advance. Your Mum could write a letter of support. You probably would score 8 for social interaction but maybe not more that 2 for cooking unless you're not safe or really cannot venture as far as the kitchen. I imagine you could score highly in the first mobility question to do with planning and following journeys. Good luck.

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Online Community Member Posts: 98 Empowering

    ....now I can't unthink that!!!! 🤢🤢😂😂

  • SharonE16
    SharonE16 Online Community Member Posts: 4 Listener

    It’s so hard not to worry. I’m 60 with fibromyalgia (diagnosed many years ago), arthritis in lower back and suffer with anxiety and depression. I do get pip but have never received 4 points for any 1 descriptor. The thought of losing pip and then lcwra is making me ill. I honestly do not know how I will manage. It feels like we are being punished for having disabilities.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    I'd rather wake up next to Jacob Rees-Mogg, and that's really saying something (not really of course, he's a tory).

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering

    Have you read -Tragedy and HopeBook by Carroll Quigley

    Also Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi- Practical Idealism (the Kalergi Plan for Europe)

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  • lukemc
    lukemc Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    My name is Luke I am diagnosed with autism and one aspect of my condition is the fact that I ruminate and worry I used to receive a lifetime/indefinite DLA award when migration to PIP took place I was initially awarded zero points and had to attend a tribunal which awarded me daily living enhanced rate and mobility standard rate for an ongoing period the award letter said it was not appropriate to set a fixed term in this case as my condition is unlikely to change. The Green Paper does mention that ongoing awards are not going to be abolished but I am still anxious as I have read posts on here suggesting that when the new descriptors come in there is a possibility that they will want to reassess everyone including ongoing awards can anyone let me know what you think will happen just to put my mind at rest I do have 4 points btw on social communication but do you think it will be a violation of the Equality Act to remove the daily living component from me if they said my condition is not likely to change in the award letter? Just asking if anyone has an idea of what will happen with ongoing awards as there does not seem to be much info online or in the press about this I did feel better after reading the green paper yesterday mentioning that ongoing awards are to continue but recently I have been stressed again as I read a post on here last night suggesting that everyone will be reassessed like in the DLA to PIP migration anyway I have demanded a face to face meeting with my MP which I am expecting to get shortly and will put that question to her.

  • Donna_donna
    Donna_donna Online Community Member Posts: 35 Empowering

    Finally someone said the word i was avoiding posting for fear of being tarnished a conspiracy theorist..

    Depopulation

    This is what it is and has been being implemented heavily in the last few years imo.

    A long with a large pinch of divide and rule

    Which i personally feel is what the 4 points **** is about ,getting sick and disabled to hate other sick and disabled people.

    Oldest trick in the book.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,085 Championing
  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering
    edited March 19

    That question i should have at least have gotten a 6-8 was confirmed by the aforementioned team that deals with me; yet amazingly PIP ignored it lol .. it beggars belief!

    Truth is; the assessor was an ex paramedic that had no clue about my conditions(quite a few co-morbid conditions) plus the ASD.

    I had previously read that many don't, hence why i collated all of that supporting evidence that they ignored…I know it makes zero sense, but they simply chose to ignore it.

    I provided the phone contacts for the specialists but nothing!

    The only people PIP did call for my later renewal, was St Thomas' for my M.E/Fibro & spinal stenosis.

    I'm partially sorry to say, but i don't have much faith in the assessment process; due to my personal experiences of them,

  • EmmaC89
    EmmaC89 Online Community Member Posts: 19 Listener

    I watched yesterday announcement about benefit changes. But it seems the government is more focused on PIP, but there has been no mention of adults still on DLA and DWP has yet to send a letter to apply for pip.


    so where do people like myself who is still on DLA stand in regards to not loosing the LCWRA element of UC?

    I’ve been getting high rate for motability and care since 1997 with an indefinite award and the government website advices to not voluntarily apply for pip without a letter if DLA is high rate.

    So will I loose LCWRA if DWP fails to ask me to apply for pip?

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Oh god don't, can you imagine that thing in a morning!! wish I hadn't mentioned it now i'll have nightmares of being persued by him for not being disabled enough , urrrgh he makes me shiver with fright😂

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