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Again thank you so much,
When Dad was alive he actually voted for Starmer and Rayner, but within weeks he said
"this guy is not the right person, he lied to get the job" He then hoped Rayner being known for standing her ground would make sure he kept to his word.
I found the other interview he gave, nothing about the policies yet now all these welfare cuts are something he Truly believes in.
Pat Mc Fadden said he actually stated "Sue Gray is not going anywhere" and we know what happened there. Taking those difficult decisions means sharing with people what they are before they trust you, this is something Starmer just cant grasp.
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There's a definite pattern emerging, isn't there.
Winter fuel payment.
Two-child cap.
Disability benefits.
They seem to hate anyone who is not able to service their/their chums' (or in the case of Kendall her partner's) greed.
Won't be long until they are actually referring to us as 'useless eaters' in public - I suspect they already do so in private.
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@jul1aorways "I don't want to wish my life away but the best thing about pension age will actually be, being (mostly) left alone by the government. It's even more important than the situation with the money."
This is exactly how I feel. Like you I have had another 7 years added to my pension age. I'm now 64 with long-term and additional health issues, although I have just started down the WCA journey. After nearly 50 years working seeing that retirement age approaching is so important to our mental and physical health. Extending the goal (or that should be jail) posts is cruelty on top of everything else we have to endure. At this stage we just want to be left alone.
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@A_Z1961 , Thank you, and Iβm sorry to hear about your situation. You raise an important point about the challenges of accessing the benefits system and the rising state pension age, which leave many over 60 with no choice but to remain in employment despite health issues. Some of the issues was even highlighted in a recent Centre for Aging Better blog: βΒ The UK is headed in the wrong direction for older workers with ill-healthβ
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@Summerlove she's a shape-shifter. Here she is claiming to be the anti-austerity candidate
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Itβs driving me mad how every time one of these horrible frontbenchers is asked about the harm this is going to do, even when the question doesnβt relate whatsoever to work, they only have one responseβ¦
βWork will set you free!β
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Whoops, posted too soon.
On another track, I've seen the new PIP test (on the B&W site).
It's been bugging me but I couldn't work out why (brain fog due to off-the-scale anxiety).
I've realised the test/points in and of themselves don't amount to a hill of beans.
The real issue is the rulebook issued to assessors in terms of how to allocate points.
I'd imagine that is being (or has been) rewritten to disqualify even more applicants.
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Do you mean she saw your bank statements? Where does it say they can do that?
Did they explain why?
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But we donβt yet know when they will start this or whether it will be for new claimants only or if some may stay in the CB Support Group old style ESA, or if it will be dependent on age etc. When there are changes like this thereβs usually some protections for those who have been in receipt of its predecessor (I know thereβs no guarantee theyβll do that this time) like the migration from Incapacity Benefit to the old ESA.
Despite the fact thereβs a New style ESA I havenβt been asked to migrate onto it. So I think we need to wait and see, but I agree with others that this aspect has hardly warranted much discussion and they might be hoping to get it in under the radar with all the hype about PIP changes.Of course the other thing Kendall didnβt mention is the fact theyβll also save a lot on Carers Allowance if they are planning to decrease the numbers qualifying for PIP care component. If you lose PIP care component youβll also presumably lose CA.
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I agree some employees do not comply with the rulebook.
My point was, I suppose, issues/restraints that currently exist and lead to successful MRs/tribunals may no longer exist when the rulebook for employees is rewritten.
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I am so very sorry for the traumatic loss of your dad, that's shocking and utterly heartbreaking. Lost my dad 25 years ago today, it all comes back to me like it was yesterday, often does. Take care of yourself and sending π«.
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If and when the changes come in, for those of us on UC and LCWRA, if the LCWRA gets stopped in Nov 28, doesn't that mean our UC increases by that amount (ie my UC was something like 900 but got 416 deducted off it as LCWRA is paid separately.
I don't know if this makes sense, it does to me but might not be explaining it well.
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The awful thing is Catherine, I voted Labour all my life, all my family did because of our roots, our history. Now I will never vote for them again and that is so sad. I am getting an email together explaining who my Grandad was and what he stood for and send it to my MP, I doubt it will have any effect but maybe it might give her just a tiny twinge of guilt, wont hold my breath though π
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I always thought the vulnerable were Labour voters . I canβt think whoβs going to vote Labour next election.
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Thank you so much for your reply. I don't feel so alone with my thoughts on this now because of what you have said. Thank you. π
I actually think that it's beyond cruelty that we are put in this position, as you so rightly say, imprisoned in this utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt system. At this point in our lives, it does feel like being forced to play the long game while looking forward to our still distant release from prison.π
I'm pleased for you that you are at least closer to retirement age than me. I'm 60 and still have just under seven years to wait.
I don't know about you but doesn't it feel odd that on just one day, your birthday where you become state pension age, suddenly, you become, in the eyes of the government and the establishment, free of blame for supposedly being an expensive burden that's ruining the economy to a person that's much more worthwhile and accepted as being honest and much more deserving. Perhaps it's just me but I think that it's really odd, quite surreal in fact. I think that it just shows the ridiculous, ideological, divide and rule thinking behind it all and certainly it has nothing to do with the lives that people like us are forced to live. π
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I'm so sorry I think I'm wrong about this.
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Unfortunately, to say the least, people clobbered by Labour are proposing to vote for Reform, locally and nationally.
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Hi all, this discussion has reached nearly 100 pages and has become difficult for everyone, and particularly new members, to find the information they need. With this in mind we have started a new discussion with some of the key points and will be encouraging conversation to move there instead.
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