Dwp uc bank statements/closed banks

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  • Ga2565
    Ga2565 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Listener

    Have just come across this recently joined,Am in same situation, if don't mind me asking did you eventually close your bank accounts and did they dwp mention at all anything about why or even request statements from any closed bank accounts? Am wanting close a few bank accounts if before i need to claim universal credit.just don't want the hassle having to get lots of bank statements. But don't want to be in trouble if later on they may be able to know i had other bank accounts and closed them

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,132 Championing

    I've closed 2 bank accounts while on UC. I actually forgot I had them until after a I started UC. Nothing has happened so far.

  • Ga2565
    Ga2565 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Listener

    Thank you replying, don't think you hear anything now, hopefully not as heard its hassle having to then get statements from when the account was active, am doing same close accounts no longer needed,if it's closed it's closed but heard dwp can be awkward if at a later date they come across any bank account not declared, also it's intrusive. do you know if when claim universal credit they will ask if got any closed bank accounts? Just don't want be in trouble, it should be if any previous accounts closed then it's not relevant

  • JessieJ
    JessieJ Online Community Member Posts: 925 Trailblazing

    I had the follow up call to end my review last week, all went well.

    He read through a list of financial institutes or savings I may have had, no to all. Then, I remembered I had a PO account in the 80s, not thought about it or used it since the 80s. So, it all went well until I opened my big mouth, in my journal he added it as a to do, to track that down & I have a fortnight to do it! 🤔 He did add, if I needed help or support, message back in my journal. So, anyway, have opened an account on My Lost Account, think that will take them a lot longer than two weeks to find it though. 😆 Have also remembered since, years before that, I opened an account with Midland bank when I was 10, I still have the 'antique' secure money box I was given, that had to be taken into the bank to be unlocked with a key they had, but as the bank has gone… The money box, now with lock broken, done when I was about 11 🤣, has a rather old £1 note & a sixpence in it. To track down that account would be a feat, so glad I hadn't remembered that, but it probably still had money in it.

    The moral of the story, if your memory is jogged to an historic account not used or thought about in decades, keep schtum!

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,132 Championing

    They won't ask about closed accounts when you first claim Universal Credit.

    If you get randomly reviewed and they ask for the standard 4 months bank statements, then you should include closed accounts for that, if they were open during the 4 months.

  • Ga2565
    Ga2565 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Listener

    Surely going back that far to the 80s would not be relevant in anyway to them, jeeze many years ago , why should old account be relevant now to them or do you think they was already aware of your old post office account or is still on some credit reference files ? One time i had post office savings stamps used to stick them on a card, me to was with Midland a decent bank i not be telling them to cause me suffering with stress it seems that's what they do.also That dwp is so intrusive and certainly should not be looking at transactions what anyone has bought, i will be closing my bank accounts no longer needed

  • JessieJ
    JessieJ Online Community Member Posts: 925 Trailblazing

    @Ga2565, I was a tad surprised that he wanted the details of that old account & no, he wasn't aware of it. Through the review conversation, he read out a list of savings, bonds & bank accounts etc., then asked if I had any, that is when I said about the old PO account, it was only as he read it out that I remembered. If they track it down on My Lost Account, there won't be anything in it, sadly! So if you have any lost & forgotten empty accounts, do not mention them!

  • Ga2565
    Ga2565 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Listener

    It seems they want details of to many things and it's intrusive, not sure i be able to cope with the way they seem to treat the disabled, have heard so many negative reviews of the way many have been treated, i cannot deal with certain situations my head goes and will retaliate in the slightest of upset, you will be ok with the PO account as that by now will have been well deleted of the system,,you no need worry,do you think it's routine for them to read out a list of banks accounts, bonds savings to everyone who claims universal credit? Then if say no got non of them bank accounts, they must make a note of it, there snoops they would see the disabled in the gutter if they had there way

  • JessieJ
    JessieJ Online Community Member Posts: 925 Trailblazing

    I don't agree with us having to supply 4 months of bank statements, @Ga2565, it is very intrusive & punishing, but that's the way it is. Even though I knew there would be no problems with mine, it still made me have the wobbles, but all was good. It will be interesting to see what MLA come up with, but it won't be in the 2 weeks UC have given me, I'll just say in my journal as it gets near the end date.

    I presume the question re all monetary accounts is the norm on a review call, maybe someone else that has been through one will say. I would never lie about an account that was current, to hide it, not in me to do that. Would never have thought a forgotten, historic, unused one needed reporting though. Not like I could produce the last 4 months statements on it & they are welcome to hunt it down if they have the time. Which, as it stands at the mo, they haven't with all the reviews taking place. Will see what happens if & when any info turns up.

  • Ga2565
    Ga2565 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Listener

    Yes it is very intrusive having to provide personal bank statements they look at transactions what could be anything, your old PO account will now not be on the system, if was closed after probably some considerable time be deleted, did you tell them its closed account or did they not ask when was the last time old PO account was used ? should not be relevant unless already declared it to them, Do you think when anyone makes a fresh new universal credit claim they intentionally go try find anyones bank account or they already have obtained and got records of the person's previous bank accounts? Then they wait see if declared it when applied UC .

  • JessieJ
    JessieJ Online Community Member Posts: 925 Trailblazing

    @Ga2565, it was only when he read the list out that I remembered the PO account & I said that it was from the 80s, not used since the early 90s. It isn't relevant, but it seems he wanted to give me something to do, although, he wrote it in my journal & not in my to do list, so will count for nothing. Unless it does turn up & I miraculously have 1000s in it.

    I don't think they go hunting for accounts of new claimants, I can't actually remember what you had to fill out on the forms when first signing up, whether you had to you give them all the accounts that are live & valid. As I only have the one current account, it's not on my radar. It would be a difficult & costly task to hunt down everyones accounts though, people move around, change names etc. They may check all of a person's DWP records, to see if other accounts are listed for different benefits, but that might be too much joined up thinking, as communication between departments never seems very good. Those that they suspect of fraud would be a different case though.

  • Ga2565
    Ga2565 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Listener

    He knows quite well that any old PO account going back that far would not relevant now that's why he's not put it in your to do list, it's probably been written in journal incase old PO account one day may appear or so he may think, obviously its not, would be magic if it did with a 1000s, how many times or months apart do they ask if got any bonds, savings accounts? Don't they take NO for an answer and continue every few months asking same if got any bonds,etc,? Do they phone insisting to speak? I could Not be doing with that would send my head all over the place, had a chat to me welfare rights he said if think there being to over the top can complain to senior level if there onto to often.