How do people get placed into the no reassessment category?

Rumbler303
Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

Hello there,

I've asked a similar question about PIP, and I've only been awarded this recently, so I'm not going to challenge my current decision.

Basically though, how do you get LCWRA long term? I'd say on reassessment that I'm only limited to certain jobs, and I have autism which is never going to go away and I pretty much just have to try and cope (although this is hard), and I'm only limited to certain types of things. I may go back into work but this is probably now going to be on a limited/part-time basis and only for certain jobs related to the criteria I was awarded.

Is this just a matter of explaining to the assessor if I could be placed into this group for this reason? Or is there more criteria I'd need to say to them?

As I say, this will be for another good couple of years, but I thought I would ask to see what to say to them.

Thanks.

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  • Mary_Scope
    Mary_Scope Posts: 1,367 Scope Online Community Children and Family Specialists

    Hi @Rumbler303

    To get long-term LCWRA, you have clearly explain how your lifelong condition severely and consistently limits your ability to do work-related activities and provide evidence and link it to your limitations to the specific LCWRA descriptors.

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    Hi @Mary_Scope can I also meet this descriptor if it's also just the types of work I'm limited in? Upon reassessment in the future, might it be worth going to my Doctor to explain this and send this along into the assessor and also ask my Doctor to say that he recommends LCWRA indefinitely?

  • Mary_Scope
    Mary_Scope Posts: 1,367 Scope Online Community Children and Family Specialists

    Hi again @Rumbler303,

    Yes, limited work types are relevant for LCWRA. It would be very helpful to get a doctor's letter detailing your limitations and why they're long-term and then you can explain them clearly during the assessment and usually that is enough for long-term LWCRA

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    Hi @Mary_Scope great, thank you. I think it mostly comes down to the 'not coping with any' change descriptor and this relates to jobs specifically related to the office environment, so I'm limited to work from home/remote jobs, and thus why I should be LCWRA, does this sound good for the Doctor to give? Hopefully that's enough as you said, that'll be my last question then, thank you.

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    That's also to do with my ASD and ADHD.

  • Mary_Scope
    Mary_Scope Posts: 1,367 Scope Online Community Children and Family Specialists

    Hi @Rumbler303

    Yes that is a very important point for your doctor to emphasize in their letter as it shows why/how you have limitations to work as office environments are not suitable and work from home/remote jobs are necessary so this directly shows how your autism and ADHD limits your capability to work.

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    Hi @Mary_Scope thank you. Would you please be kind enough to answer a question on PIP also?

    Thank you.

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 815 Trailblazing
    edited March 27

    I'm not Mary Scope (!) but i would guess that conditions fitting this criteria would be progressive neurological conditions such as Parkinsons, Motor Neurone Disease and Huntingtons Chorea.

    Profound learning disabilities.

    Brain injuries that have stabilised and led to permanant loss of function.

    Incurable cancers.

    Physical disabilities which have severely limited a person's functional ability.

    Severe autism where someone is non verbal, yes.

    I am no expert on this but i don't think autism, unless it is very severe, would be included.

    My son has been on disability benefits from 3yrs old. He is now 26 on double enhanced and is autistic. No way does he have the ability to come onto a forum like this and write a post. But he is verbal and he can write, just at a simple level.

    He has a 5 year award and that's about right i think because although he will always be autistic, he is learning new skills and becoming more able.

    5 years ago it wasn't possible to have any conversational exchange with him. Now, he will try to answer in longer sentences and say as much as he can.

    It is not yet reciprocal as he doesn't care a hoot about the other person but if you asked him about his work, he'd tell you a few things. I can only see that improving.

    In the future, we hope he will be able to move out of our home. He will always need help but he keeps progressing.

    It is not true to say that autistic people cannot make progress.

    Though it is true that severely autistic people, especially those with an additional severe learning disability (iq below 50) will need considerable life long support and should therefore be eligible for the light touch reviews.

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    Hello @anisty is this more for the PIP rather than UC? I think with LCWRA if you're only able to do certain jobs then you should be able to qualify, but the PIP ongoing award I can see harder to get.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 5,143 Championing

    The bar to get placed into a "no more reassessments" group is extremely high.

    There is very little real life feedback out there.

    This page was linked to in an article from 2017.

    https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/2017/october/guidance-work-capability-assessment-reassessment-published

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 815 Trailblazing
  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    That is okay. I do have a thread on PIP as well though but I can see how severe it probably needs to be to qualify for ongoing. Thank you

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    That’s pretty involved! Can you summarise what the long text after the list of conditions means? That’s quite difficult to comprehend for me what that is saying.

  • Fuji
    Fuji Online Community Member Posts: 108 Empowering

    I have autism and got 10yr award pip. So you don't have to be on the lower end of the spectrum to get it. I also have severe mental health issues but my pip was specifically for autism. I get enhanced for both.

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    On the lower end meaning like @anisty ’s son? How does your autism affect you and what did you mention to the DWP?

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    I think we’re getting a bit confused but we can use this thread to talk about both LCWRA and PIP. Do you get no reassessments for LCWRA and also Ongoing Award @Fuji ?

  • Rumbler303
    Rumbler303 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Connected

    Ongoing Award for PIP that is.

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 310 Empowering

    How do I see my WCA report? It was 8 years ago, I got LCWRA but never saw what was written in my assessment

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 815 Trailblazing

    This was my son's LCWRA report. As a mum, i was gutted to see it. No mum wants to see their 21 yr old son written off from work for life.

    My son wasn't called for re assessment but of course it's been covid.

    He is off UC just now and i expect he will be re assessed when he claims in future. Fingers crossed he will be moved up into LCW.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,991 Championing

    Hi

    I was reassessed for esa last year and prior to that I was last reassessed 14 years ago

    They don't give you an end date like pip do so the award is ongoing unless your circumstances change or they decide to reassess you.