Consultation

Catherine21
Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing
edited April 8 in Current affairs

I read the consultations start and labour will be going to diffrent areas to talk to disabled groups and public ? I guess Google areas they will be visiting I'm confused I thought they wasn't doing consultations

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  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 255 Empowering

    Where did you read this?

  • Jellihead
    Jellihead Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    @Girl_No1

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-listen-learn-and-deliver-as-consultation-on-transformational-welfare-reforms-begins

  • Jellihead
    Jellihead Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    @Catherine21

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-listen-learn-and-deliver-as-consultation-on-transformational-welfare-reforms-begins

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 255 Empowering

    @Jellihead Cheers!

  • IrishManc
    IrishManc Online Community Member Posts: 70 Empowering

    To me, this is far more of a human issue rather than a “political” issue, even though there are so many elements of this that are hugely and distinctly political, when we consider our own personal situations - I was reminded of this when I was writing to members of the U.K. Royal Family who are patrons of various disability and mental health charities, detailing my own personal experiences (while keeping my personal account of my own experiences as non-political as possible), in the hope that I can get some support. I know that members of the Royal Family cannot become involved in political issues and disputes, as a fan of the Royals for many years, yet at the same time, I cannot help but wonder if this political “u-turn” by Labour was “inspired” by something that the Royals had said in a private capacity and/or as patron of one of these charities and/or via the King in one of his audiences with the Prime Minister

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,058 Championing

    Catherine, have I missed something? I couldn’t find a list of areas to be visited. The link you posted leads to the latest DWP press release, and from what I understand, they’re still reviewing the situation and not planning any visits yet. It seems like they’re focusing on the issue, rather than naming specific areas to visit.

    I’ve extracted a section of the DWP press release below that talks about the areas they are considering changing, but there’s nothing about visiting regions.

    Here’s what they’re looking into, though nothing has been confirmed yet. I did find the bigger changes they are listing below interesting:

    Issues open for consultation include:

    Helping people succeed with the new support offer.

    Supporting employers and making work easier to access.

    Changing the health and disability benefits system.

    These are part of bigger changes, which also include:

    Reintroducing reassessments for people on incapacity benefits who can work, to make sure they get the right support and aren’t left out indefinitely.

    Focusing Personal Independence Payments on those with higher needs.

    Adjusting payment levels in Universal Credit.

    Catherine, if you have another DWP document that lists visiting areas, could you send me the link to that please?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing

    I will do I did see last night can't remember where I think it's all a fast going through the motions

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing

    It's on gov website it says virtual face to face last night said was visiting certain areas now says thinking virtual face to face to talk to people about green paper

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing

    I don't believe any of this it's because they can say yes we are taking away billions but look look at this we do care we are doing all this !! Nope not buying it but I can imagine alot of people who have never dealth with DWP would think it was wonderful

  • Banarama123
    Banarama123 Online Community Member Posts: 70 Empowering

    Hi. I have a feeling she might mean they are going to be consulting with charity organisations to get feedback from disabled people. But to be honest I don’t think it will change anything that Labour are implementing regarding benefits. Even if their own MPs disagree which sone of them already have. But Labour had a big majority of seats. Do it won’t matter if a few disagree as the majority will be there.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing

    I agree this is all for show so they can say we listened but it's still morally wrong blah blah maybe if they push ahead people will take action that's for sure maybe court cases

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 791 Trailblazing

    I posted about this a couple of days ago and took a screenshot of all the places and dates.

    Maybe i posted in the wrong section; i thought it was odd no one seemed interested🤣

  • emc123
    emc123 Online Community Member Posts: 114 Empowering
    edited April 9

    Hi, Is the Substantial risk still being scrapped from the LCWRA (New health element) please, ie if Substantial risk was your reason for LCWRA will this element payment be Lost come Reassessment Before the new changes?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing

    I'm confused to I'm substantial risk so what we will lose 400

  • Jellihead
    Jellihead Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    @Catherine21

    I think that the government knew that it was going to be financially unstable to maintain the benefit system as it is. This was a clear message from the Tories. They had already launched an unsuccessful campaign about 2 years ago to encourage those with disabilities to get back into work. The way these "ideas" work is that they put up some funding for LA's to bid on and then let them be the guinea pigs as to whether it worked or not. In my area of Devon, there were radio adverts, Adult Social Services gave a few workshops, some really good projects of what is successful, for example cafe's run by those with disabilities, employers who already have experience of supporting those with disabilities, ie Calvert Trust, Skern Lodge, No Limits Cafe in Totnes to name a few.

    However, to make it work you have to have lived knowledge with those who have disabilities and train all those who don't. This is why it never succeeds because the onus is on the worker not the employer. This is my view.

  • emc123
    emc123 Online Community Member Posts: 114 Empowering
    edited April 10

    Hopefully an Admin or someone familiar with the greenpaper proposals will respond to this question. I'll do it's own post x

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,119 Championing

    I agree it's almost like thier your responsibility the government want to make as much divide between us and relying on the dwp just gives you a headache all of it anyone with a brain cell can see straight through it

  • Popster2020
    Popster2020 Online Community Member Posts: 35 Connected

    Thoughts on this article?

    The press love scaremongering, but it doesn't tell you much!

    DWP confirms PIP changes including 10-year ‘light-touch’ reviews

    It's crucial to note that the DWP guidance also states most claimants will have their award regularly reviewed, "regardless of the length of the award" in order to ensure "everyone continues to receive the most appropriate level of support".

    The reforms detailed in the "Green Paper Pathways to Work: Reforming Benefits and Support to Get Britain Working" suggest better communications for ongoing PIP award decisions, improvements to support offered between 'light touch' reviews, and potentially adjusting the frequency of these reviews.