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@jul1aorways - if I had given that quote out of context (which I hadn't as I added a hyperlink to the article), I would agree with your comment. I therefore wasn't telling the community anything, nor did I intimate that I was giving an in-depth analysis of the whole article!
I was able to understand the article, thank you, but appreciating that others know far more about politics than myself, I will refrain from commenting further on this thread.
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Hi, this might be what your'e looking for, hope it helps.
🔹 Definition of Disability (Section 6)
You are considered disabled under the Equality Act 2010 if:
- You have a physical or mental impairment
- That impairment has a substantial and long-term negative effect on your ability to do normal daily activities
“Long-term” means it has lasted or is likely to last 12 months or more.
🔹 Key Protections Under the Act
If you’re disabled, the Act protects you from:
- Direct discrimination
– Being treated less favourably because of your disability. - Indirect discrimination
– Policies or practices that put you (and others with your disability) at a disadvantage, unless they can be justified. - Discrimination arising from disability
– Being treated unfairly because of something connected to your disability (e.g. needing more time off work). - Failure to make reasonable adjustments
– Employers, service providers, schools, and others must take steps to remove barriers you face. This might include:- Physical adjustments to buildings
- Flexible work arrangements
- Providing special equipment or support
- Harassment
– Unwanted behaviour related to your disability that makes you feel humiliated, offended, or degraded. - Victimisation
– Being treated badly because you made a complaint or helped someone else make a complaint under the Act.
🔹 Who Has Duties Under the Act?
- Employers
- Service providers (shops, public transport, local councils, etc.)
- Education providers
- Health and social care providers
- Landlords and housing providers
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I just wanted to say I completely understand why that comment from the MP stood out to you. It was stigmatising and dismissive, and it absolutely deserved to be highlighted. You didn’t take it out of context at all; you included the link so people could read the full article for themselves.
I’m not someone who really understands how politics or parliamentary law works (not being a politician, an expert on UK politics, or qualified in parliamentary law), but I do know how that kind of comment can make people feel, and you were right to call it out.
Your post made perfect sense to me, and I really appreciated the clarity and calm way you expressed your point. You absolutely have every right to share your views, just like every other member. This affects all of us, regardless of how politically informed we are. I hope you’ll continue contributing, because your perspective genuinely matters and is very much appreciated.
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OBV, I meant "my comprehension is sharp" but that's a minor point.
What isn't minor is that looking back through my copious notebooks, I can see that the Transitional Addition following migration from Incapacity Benefit in 2011 was REDUCED on my ESA claim.
😦
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I would Google it will all be on there I Google everything
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Thank you.
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@charlie72 many thanks for your words and help it's much appreciated
Yes I will fill the form in once it arrives and send copy of the letter, my Dr is emailing it to me to print off, shame I can't send original but that's email. Should I contact pip to request paper assessment or just leave it to the letter?
Again thanks
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Hi, I would ring pip and ask for paper assessment, explain you have a letter from your GP saying it would impact your condition/make it worse , you'll also then have a record of you asking them to make reasonable adjustments on file.
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I took a break from reading any news since Monday as it was doing my head in but the worries were still there in the back of my mind.
This whole saga feels like the sword of Damocles is hovering over my head. When I first signed up to this site in late 2023 I wanted to not feel alone when the Tories starting their campaign against disabled people/incapacitated people and I'm eternally grateful to have signed up here, I'm grateful to really decent and courageous people to engage with.
My situation, I can walk, talk, use my arms but I'm mentally screwed up and missing a vertebra in my neck which gives me great pain and constant cervical headaches.
Labour and the political class who have it out for disabled and or incapacitated people will not win, this is merely a continuation of a long running saga which some say started with Tony Blair, others say it started under Thatcher and continued under John Major.
My mother said the Green Paper will get amended and watered down, that's all good but what about Labour's legislation in June? Can the Supreme Court intervene against money bills? This is not a done deal, this has legs and people need to hold the proverbial line.
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Agreed !
Life is hard enough without worrying our heads over a comma not being used . Just felt it was unnecessary to pick holes in someone for something so trivial .
Your mum was right 🙂
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In regards of the grammar situation, possibly it could be a trigger to the person, slightly off topic, my mother who is in her 70s is a stickler for grammar and good handwriting.
There has to be a line in the sand though, people here do not care about grammar, there's bigger, massive barracuda type fish to fry.
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Seems if it's a money bill it cannot be challenged
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Just found this on benefitsandwork.co.uk. the survey on how we spend out pip is apparently being sent out. It says DO NOT fill it in as its none of their business
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/04/17/dwp-pip-survey/
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You asked for our thoughts on the email you received from DWP Public Events Consultation Team. I have listed my thoughts below.
The email is carefully worded to avoid direct rejection, while subtly steering people towards the only guaranteed form of participation, the online survey. So, if you're never offered a place at an in-person event or virtual event, they can still claim you were offered the chance to share your views, through the survey.
The inclusion of that link in your email speaks volumes. It highlights that their preferred method of engagement is through feedback channels that require no real interaction.
Call me cynical, but restricting access to events often has less to do with practical limitations and more to do with controlling the narrative. It is classic smoke and mirrors, create the illusion of inclusion, then quietly sideline the people most likely to raise difficult or inconvenient questions.
Virtual waiting lists? The very idea is baffling. Traditionally, virtual sessions operate on a first-come, first-served basis, not through arbitrary queues. Yet now, we find ourselves lining up for events that, by definition, have no capacity limits. It is absurd. You are, in effect, standing in line for a room that doesn’t exist, waiting for an invisible person to vacate a seat that was never there.
A virtual system designed for accessibility should not be riddled with needless obstacles. When virtual spaces mimic real-world inefficiencies, we have to ask, is this really about inclusion, or simply about control disguised as process?
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There is no need to answer my post in that way. I said time and again that I wasn't criticising you, that I agreed with your point and I think that you are quite capable of understanding the article!!
I was just trying to say that the news in that article was a positive development and concertrating on what one negative MP had to say at the end meant that someone else reading your post might be put off reading the article as they thought it was bad news.
Out of consideration to your feelings, I did not want to put it that way and did my very best to be as respectful as possible to you.
I thought that you would understand what I was trying to say. Perhaps I expected too much of you as there are so many good genuine people on this community.
We are all trying to cope with so much with these sadistic proposals that negativity especially where there is good news is surely not the way to go.
There are utterly desperate people on this community watching their lives being destroyed so surely it makes sense to be as positive and sensitive as we can on here and although we can't get rid of the negative, we must try to do our best to get it into perspective.
I was just very concerned that this was how it appeared. If you thought I was interfering it's only because it is so heartbreaking to see all the abject misery that members are going through on this thread and others too.
Well, whatever you've written about me is your opinion. It looks as I will just have to keep doing what I can on this community, which I will undoubtedly continue to do, in the most respectful and encouraging way I can.
It was just a matter of time before I would come across this sort of situation, I was ready for it and it will not put me off. I've seen it now and will see it again. I'm just glad that the vast majority of the people on this community are so understanding and flexible in their attitude to others on here. I've only had positive to very positive feedback to my posts even when interventing in something that's happening.
We need to support and encourage others on this community because we've probably never been so in need of it. There is enough negativity already from the government. It is vital that we keep negativity on the community to a minimum, as so many are coping so badly with this nightmare that none of us can wake up from.
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Hi @Catherine21
I know that the Tories will all vote for the proposals but what I was saying is that the Labour government will be considering their party unity which is unconnected to how the Conservative Party will vote.
If they do not present a united front to the country, they could all find themselves in a very bad position. We are not the only people who loathe them.
They have already done so much damage to all sorts of people in this country and they are all sick of high taxes, their jobs being at risk and callous, badly thought out policies, harming all of us, even if they are not being harmed as badly as we are.
They know we have had enough of them looking after the wealthy and big corporations while making ordinary peoples lives miserable by making everyone poorer. They now know how deeply unpopular they are so they've come to the point that they will be more respectful of us all. 👍 😊
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Politics in Great Britain works exactly like in any other country - the ruling classes rule, for others there are decorations like totalitarianism, democracy, monarchy and so on. That is, the influence of the people on the authorities is very limited in any country.
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Hi @sarah_lea12
You're very welcome. 😊 I agree politics IS complecated, it was not simple explaining that either!!
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Yep throw in the bin offering 10 pounds pls it just gets worse want to break down how much we spend so calculation for when they change pip I bet that will be lower than now I feel so flat now
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What are we going to do if they put through as primary legislation or money bill have you any ideas
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