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Rumblings at no 10 !! If you have a labour mp let's email them and say if they go back on winter fuel payments benefits cuts and build nhs up we will vote for them in the next elections it's best to do now whilst thier all worried I'm emailing mine saying that I will say see it as a contract you have to deliver come on strike whilst the irons hot like us panicking over are future they will be doing same pls I think it's really good idea can someone do template and we all send to labour mps
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If we all emailed labour mps stating we want change at this moment in time whilst thier feeling panicky we could make changes
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Exactly this!!! We have three weeks email mos everyday
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When you think it can't get any worse and people what's not being mentioned is will starmer sign us into The who convention has to July no mention of what he's going to do also fraud bill and talks of mps wanting out of echr !!!
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I don't get what your saying
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All of us disabled and hardly any signatures where are people why aren't writing hounding mps come on !!! Do something times ticking
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Just to say, I was only sharing some factual information to help clear up a bit of confusion around Catherine’s post. Someone mentioned it sounded like a conspiracy theory, so I just wanted to point out that geoengineering studies and funding are actually happening. That’s really all I meant; I wasn’t trying to give an opinion or get into a big debate. Just trying to keep things accurate.
I hear what you're saying too, it’s a huge and complex issue, and I agree that no single country can solve it alone. Everyone is entitled to their views, I just thought it was worth adding a bit of context since Catherine wasn’t imagining what she’d heard about blocking the sun.
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Is anyone preparing if they are refused pip saying that all these changes happen.
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I agree - its almost as if they believe that UKs atmosphere remains UK's atmosphere - when in reality - with what India, China and now USA pump out - it doesn't make the smallest hoot of a difference even if UK completely stopped producing greenhouse gases completely now !!
At the expense of £billions - we may as well give up……because what will happen will happen anyway - it's too late to fix.
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I don't think that there is really any preparing people can do. Most of us live month to month so saving money beforehand is going to be very difficult. My husband has started to look to see if there are any jobs going in our area and in his field as if I lose PIP we lose carers for him. LCWRA and also carers element on UC which is over 15K per year. We would have less than £450 per month after our rent is paid as our housing allowance doesn't cover our full rent. I realise I am in a more fortunate situation as I have a partner who could go back to work, I have several friends who are single and disabled and they would not have any option as they are not able to work and would be destitute if they force this vote through and hundreds of thousands of disabled people would be in the same situation, I honestly don't know what the government expect will happen.
Firstly since they are linking LCWRA to PIP it is going to lead to a large increase in PIP claims from people who currently receive LCWRA but don't claim PIP. They will have no option but to claim PIP.
Secondly people who are at risk of losing PIP will do all they can to keep it and will go to tribunals and keep putting PIP claims in as soon as they have any change in condition which may qualify them.
It is going to lead to an increase of costs for the government paying for all of the tribunals and increased staffing to deal with PIP claims from people on LCWRA.
Local councils will be overwhelmed with people needing housing, food banks, not being able to pay council tax will lead to less revenue for the councils and at the same time increased demands of services.
Local GP and mental health services will be overwhelmed with people seeking help, depression is going to get worse, as well as other mental health conditions, increased hospital visits and hospital stays.
I hate to say it but people who feel hopeless and helpless to change their situation may decide they don't want to be here and the government will literally have blood on their hands. I find it hard to wrap my head around how callous they are acting.
There will be many more knock on effects I haven't thought of and I just hope that the proposals will be watered down or some sort of other payment is given to cover people who will lose their PIP and LCWRA.
We will have to wait and see what ultimately happens but try and keep hope alive, living without hope becomes soul destroying and we are all in this together and we will continue fighting as hard as we can.
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I feel you on this 🥺 ....I'm one of those people that is on cbesa / lcwra but doesn't claim pip .....
As things stand , the pip changes that are coming in November 2026 will affect existing claimants and new claimants of pip only after that date
People like myself ( nearly a million by all accounts ) will be reassessed with the existing wca up until sometime in 2028 , when at that time the wca will be scrapped and the new pip criteria will take over for the rest of us ....
All I'm concentrating on at the moment is passing that and then dealing with the pip assessment when it takes over .... Otherwise it's to overwhelming
I'm just praying within that time these proposals are watered down , I also doubt very much starmer will still be in a job by then
It's not just that these proposals are cruel in every form , but the more I try and work out how they will work is baffling to me 🤷
There is no way that these reforms will cause anything else than chaos and hysteria , it will leave people absolutely desperate , that is why there is still a part of me that is quietly confident that not just that they won't go through but in there current state they simply cannot .... They have been so poorly thought out with absolutely no evaluation of the destruction they will cause
Alot has been said about pip but the people in my situation stand to be hit as some of the hardest with the scrapping of the wca and there has been next to no coverage on that
All we can do is wait and hope .... What a truly awful way to live
I never thought I would despise a government as much as Johnson's , especially not a labour government.... But here we are
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Just have to fight them with MR or Tribunal start getting letters listing doctors appointments ect I just email Jo white mp she did an article stating winter fuel payments Maggie thatchers poll tax I called her out and said no mention of pip and the years months of psychology abuse we have suffered and I wrote more I'm really thinking this will be watered down or preying
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Can you send email to all of these ? If so how not manual
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Yep. You're right, we've got to pressurise our MPs and even tell them that we would campaign against them at the next GE if don't react to the damn government's proposals. We've to throw panic into their future, as their party is throwing panic into ours.
I wrote to my MP, who's one of those Labour MPs whose party whip was withdrawn on 23 July 2024 after voting for an amendment to scrap the two-child benefit cap. She hasn't got her whip back to date and, in result, she has decided to become an independent MP, and I'm sure she's better off in this way, rather than licking the boots of Keir Starmer.
She said not only is she against cuts to sickness and disability benefits, but also that she'll vote against these cuts. And she says this loud and in public.
Yesterday, she wrote:
"This Labour defeat was preventable. The priority must be to drop the planned cuts to disability benefits, restore the winter fuel allowance, end all arms sales to Israel, scrap the 2-child limit & tax the super-rich. These are the decisions needed to deliver the change promised."
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Exactly.
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Not surprising at all frustratingly.
It feels quite clear that the powers that be have been planning all this for quite some time.
It just so happens to be this Liebour gvt that are going to be the ones to implement it.
Two cheeks of the same ass as they say.
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this was 2 years ago , I was downgraded from highest mobility which I got back at MR but increased to highest in care . At the time it didn’t make sense , it saved dwp £50 a month but that was the only reason I could think of for the changes. With hindsight I should have fought for the 4 point but didn’t need to as she’d increased the award. But I have it on my review form my answer which was a 4 point descriptor so next time I’ll fight for that . Mind you no matter how long this has been arranged the fact is it’s going ahead on starmers watch . He could cancel all the reforms if he wanted to.
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The knock-on effects to both claimants, councils, and the economy are the very reason Starmer et al are refusing to let MPs see the OBR report in advance of the vote.
They know precisely the knock-on effects mentioned above, and probably even more, but they are grasped by some determination to force this agenda through.
The problem is if (or more like when) it is passed, there is no-one coming to save us when Labour are booted out.
It's the Tories' dream to remove disability benefits but they never had the actual balls to fully attempt it.
Farage is licking his froggy lips at the prospect of unleashing his inner-Hitler in No 10.
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Depends on what they've got on him ;-)
And yes probably most of us, should have been "entitled"to more points in any catagory but usually just accept the underscoring we are allocated despite knowing this,because it's just too stressful too exhausting and too much fear of the risk of losing everything if we try and dispute it.
We are always in kept in a stranglehold of some sort and it's purposefully created that way.
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How can we prepare, any suggestions ?
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