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  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 447 Trailblazing

    Not only has she waited for 14 years, but when she got appointed as shadow secretary of state for the DWP she said that she had always dreamed of becoming one day the secretary of state for the DWP, and to me, this hinted that she had been sharpening her knives for people on benefits for ages!

    She's the perfect embodiment of evil.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 447 Trailblazing

    It depends more on how many Tory MPs vote for it.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 447 Trailblazing

    It depends more on how many Tory MPs vote for it.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 447 Trailblazing
  • davidpnuk
    davidpnuk Online Community Member Posts: 22 Connected
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    That's good to hear that you are feeling a little better than you did pinkrose.

    I've not been at all well for the last few days but I've no doubt that I'll rally again soon. 😊

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    I'm going to do the same thing today. That's great that everyone is trying to get this information out there, it could really help our case if the right people know about it.

    We have been suffering for such a long time under the Tories and then under Labour with these threats to us, as both were try to win votes for the GE. As bad as the Tories were and they are appalling, at least they didn't try to destroy us all.

    There has to be a message sent to MPs for the future.

    We must realise that if they get away with this, they will be back for more and more until disability benefits are a thing from the past.

    We cannot and must not let that happen. ✊

    We must keep resisting them and voting against them, ensuring that as many of our allies as possible do the same.

    They will not give up on this if at all humanly possible as that is the type they are. They will also use every underhanded trick they can think of to blow us off course. Beware in particular of them smiling in our face then stabbing us in the back!! 😳🗡️

    As we can see by how they are treating other minorities and supporting genicide just what monsters they are. 😡

    Their big mistake was underestimating us. They certainly didn't think that we would resist them to this extent. We can do so much more if we just keep throwing everything at them that we can and defeating their dirty tricks!! 😊

    ✊The greatest enemy of the state is the truth. ✊

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,103 Trailblazing

    PIP descriptors do cover pain and fatigue. If a claimant can't perform an activity reliably, in a timely manner, repeatedly, etc they are deemed unable to perform the activity.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    edited May 13

    The trouble with Starmer is that he only recognises the human rights of certain minorities but refuses to recognise that those same rights even apply to other minority groups like us. 😡

    He knows that he just cannot pick and chose to suit himself but is doing just that to our great detriment.

    Well said about the fact that you hope that every MP who votes for these cuts or abstains should go down with Starmer. I do hope so! 🤗 With all that's going on I think that all we need to do is watch this space....

    We have to watch for trickery all the time though, like with their claim that it is the young with MH or Neurodivergent conditions causing the rise in benefit claims instead of older people with physical health conditions. Figures can't lie 🤥 even if the government do.

    That's why we must all be vigilant and make sure that the truth gets out to those out there who can make a difference to the outcome of all this, on our behalf.

    It really is dangerous to push us where our ME/CFS won't allow us to go. You have all that pain too and I have the additional problem, with my anxiety disorder that if pushed too far I get non epileptic seizures.

    We have got to force them into retreat. You cannot appeal to the Labour Leadership and the rest of right wing element of the government on moral grounds because they don't have any.

    They only understand being voted out of office with the loss of money, status and privilege it entails so that is what we must work on. ✊

    ✊"The greatest enemy of the state is the truth." ✊

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    I would prefer actual questions about pain and fatigue. I find they ignore the fact I may be able to do something once but couldn’t again or do something safely. It gives them too much leeway to say you can do something ok .

  • Hopeless
    Hopeless Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 791 Empowering

    https://actionbutton.nationbuilder.com/share/SPK-QEVBQkI%3D The Campaign for Disability Justice are asking us to sign their letter to the government over the green paper

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    edited May 13

    This is an Open Letter to the government to ask them to stop ignoring disabled voices on the key proposals of the Government Consultation.

    Nothing about us, without us!! 📢 ✊

    Please Sign and Share!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    I agree he only thinks human rights are for certain groups . And it’s interesting that every weekend there are marches for something who support each others causes yet none are marching for us . They seem to pick and choose.

    That’s what they’re forgetting we have ME and fibromyalgia but usually other conditions which make them worse . I too have anxiety disorders and don’t go anywhere unfamiliar by myself. They must know we will end up with no money yet we can’t change our “ behaviour “ ie disability.


    I watch YouTube to see how the feeling on the street is . Some channels are better than msm in telling the truth . According to most starmers days are numbered. Now he’s using immigration for votes when no one believes he even wants to get it under control if he could. He ll still lose those votes to reform maybe Tory . He can’t see the only vote winner is helping the disabled and pensioners . I hope the Tory’s pick up on our vote and vote the cuts down.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing
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    Let's hope fraud bill next and wca and pip cuts had really bad days of worry

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing

    So she's going ahead then what they debate it go's she's thick skinned

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing

    I sent to my mp and also said that thier involvement in gaza genocide as starmer wants to do a deal with iseral !!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing

    No one's talking about data protection our emails was leaked through green paper consultation?? Maybe someone more clarity can explain

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    A FOI showed that it isn’t the young with MH or neurodivergent that’s being targeted and never was . That was a smokescreen for the fact it’s older people with physical disability’s . Again the older people he seems to have a problem with.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    May be a coincidence but less than 2 weeks after transferring from esa to uc I received a couple of txts from employment agencies. I asked how they have my data and one said it’s in their system.