Cancer talk may not be for everyone

ben2026
ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

Hello there I have bad mental health I suffer badly with my depression and anxiety I'm on the strongest medication for both and been on both the last 9 years

10 weeks ago I come across a little lump on my tongue that I thought was a osser so try things like bonjour and other moths things it didn't go away it got bigger and bigger I want to my GP about this he give me antibiotics for it and as it was given me pain some pain relief as well I took the 2 weeks of antibiotics it got bigger and a lump as come along to the other side of my tongue but small like the 1st one started so I go back to my GP given me stronger antibiotics nothing as happening now the lump as split and gone white and yellow the other lump as also gone white and got ABIT bigger I don't think anything more about it to last Friday night I get a lump and the most intense pain and swelling on my throat and tongue I have ever had I have 2 lumps in my neck that is showing as it was so swollen I honestly did think I was not going to make it to morning I go doctors on Monday he told me that you may have cancer that as spread to your throat from your tongue this news as put me in shock my anxiety is all over the place I get a phone call from the hospital nose throat and ear teams in there cancer part saying they booked me in for this Thursday coming for a meeting I'm scared out of my mind now and got my throat going tight and then stopping all the time I googled the lump and seen alot of lumps that is cancer and looked at the stages and if it's right from the NHS page I have stage 4 tongue and throat cancer and the next part of the body it goes to is the lungs

If you have anything to say that can help or been and had this and got over this please message me I'm worried and just looking for something not helping relax mind thank you

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  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 537 Championing

    Cancer talk should be for everyone, as more than 400,000 people are diagnosed with cancer each year in the UK, and on average someone in the UK is diagnosed with cancer at least every 90 seconds.

    All the best.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,266 Championing

    @ben2026

    In December 2017, after months of unusual blood tests, my GP called me in urgently. She looked serious and said, “I can’t give you any guarantees, but it looks like you may have blood cancer.” With Christmas just four days away, I had to wait until the new year for a referral to an oncologist. I was terrified. My family was still grieving the recent loss of my mum, so I chose to keep the news to myself to avoid ruining Christmas for everyone.

    Quietly, I spent hours on Google, desperate for answers and drawn to every worst-case scenario. When you said you’ve been Googling, it really hit home, because I did exactly the same. It is something so many of us do when we are afraid and uncertain. My GP’s words became the first thing I thought of when I woke up and the last thing on my mind before I fell asleep. I felt isolated, overwhelmed, and stuck in an endless loop of “what ifs”.

    That is why I want to say it is a good sign you have an appointment with the specialists so soon. They will be able to give you clear answers and guide you through whatever comes next. I know the waiting is incredibly difficult, and even with support around you, it can still feel like you are facing this on your own. No one else is in your body, carrying your exact fear. But please remember, there are people who understand what this kind of fear feels like, and many have faced what seemed like the worst and still come through it.

    I live with chronic blood cancer, and over the years I have spent time in treatment alongside people dealing with all kinds of cancer. You naturally talk, share stories, and build connections. I have met people with many different diagnoses, and I can honestly say, hand on heart, I knew a woman who survived stage 4 mouth cancer. So please, try not to lose hope.

    One thing I have learnt is how unhelpful and often distressing Google can be in moments like this. It usually points you to the worst possible outcome, which may have nothing to do with your actual situation. The NHS website offers general information, but only your medical team, after proper tests like a biopsy, can give you an accurate diagnosis.

    I know it feels dark right now, but there is still every chance that the lumps are benign. And even if it is something more serious, there are many effective treatments available today. Things that once seemed hopeless no longer are. This might feel like a lonely road, but you are not the only one who has walked it. Many people have been where you are now and have come out the other side. Try to hold on to that.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 5,969 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @ben2026, that sounds really uncomfortable and worrying, I'm sorry you're going through this at the moment. MW123 has given a really thoughtful answer, so I'm not sure I have much more to add after their kind words. But I hope the doctors are able to give you some answers at your appointment. Whatever happens there is support out there to help you through, you won't be alone and we're here if you need to talk about things.

    Is there anything that you might be able to do to distract yourself a little until the appointment? I realise that can be really difficult, but even just a couple of hours of respite from thinking about it might help you relax and rest your mind. Things that require a bit of focus like doing a craft, reading, or playing a game can help take your mind off things.

    Wishing you all the best, hope your appointment goes well.

  • ben2026
    ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    Hello @MW123 and @rosie_scope

    Thank you both for your replys mw123 I'm really am sorry to hear you had to go through everything you did having cancer is scary on its own but at a time of losing your mother and being days away from Christmas did you feel you did the right thing not to say anything at 1st as IV not told alot of people or family I don't know how to break the news how did you as of now I don't know if mine is cancer but everything points to it how long have you had yours sorry for getting asking a personnel question how did you know it was the right time to say about it to family members? Am I best to wait to see what the hospital say 1st don't make me feel any easier about it waiting to know I wish you all the best and good health I hope you get past this and everything is ok for you thank you for your message

    Hello there Rosie again thanks you for your message I am extremely worried about this as I z back there IV not told family about this but doing this on my own is hard but I don't want them to worry to I find out what it can be I thank you again for your message all the best to you

  • ben2026
    ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    Hello there everyone I have 4 lumps 2 on both sides of tongue and 2 on the same side on my throat now this is what I don't get my throat keep swallowing up and going rock hard and painful on my right side and I feel moving like bubbles in my neck it's weird feeling when it happens I became extremely tired and light headed like I'm going to pass out this as only happened 2 times one in the middle of the night and I thought I was not going to wake back up when I did get to sleep and today out of the blue is this normal as I can feel my glutes in my neck and it's moving but the other lump don't really move but get more harder the more my throat swelling up I been also getting a sharp pain in my tongue on the lump t the back behind and under my tongue IV been on antibiotics now 4 weeks and it's not going down or getting better spit can't be a virus or bacteria thing IV also seen from last night I got little small dots on my inner button lip and IV had a cut ony lip that been there from the same time my 1st lump appear over 9 weeks ies ago

  • ben2026
    ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    If this ends up being cancer I been told that I have to go to and from the hospital alot but I don't drive as I have other health issues which as stop me from.driving but the bus costs 10 pound each time I only get benefits right now is there a way I could get more help as I get the bear minimum from benefits and it's hard to get enough as it is without extra costs thanks

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 5,969 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @ben2026, if you find you need to be travelling to hospital a lot, the hospital may have transport options to help you get to appointments. You'd just need to speak to the patient transport team to see if they can help.

    There's also a scheme that helps people on low incomes, so that might be worth looking into:

    Healthcare Travel Costs Scheme (HTCS) - NHS

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 537 Championing

    There's what's called, "Healthcare Travel Costs Scheme", which can offer refunds for travel expenses incurred for medical appointments.

    To qualify for help with travel costs under the HTCS, you must meet the following 3 criteria, which I believe you meet all of them.

    1. At the time of your appointment, you or your partner (including civil partners) must receive one of the qualifying benefits or allowances listed on this page, or meet the eligibility criteria for the NHS Low Income Scheme.
    2. You must have a referral for specialist care from a healthcare professional to a specialist or a hospital for further NHS treatment or tests (often referred to as secondary care).
    3. Your appointment must be on a separate visit to when the referral was made. This applies whether your treatment is provided at a different location (hospital or clinic) or on the same premises as where the GP or another health professional issued the referral.

    To claim your travel costs, take your travel receipts, appointment letter or card, plus proof that you're receiving one of the qualifying benefits, to a nominated cashiers' office.

    Nominated cashiers' offices are located in the hospital or clinic that treated you. They'll assess your claim and make the payment directly to you.

    Hope this will help.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,266 Championing

    @ben2026

    Please don’t apologise for asking personal questions. I completely understand how overwhelming and frightening this all feels, especially when you are stuck in that uncertain place of not knowing but fearing the worst. I have been there, and it is an incredibly hard place to be.

    To answer your question, yes, I do feel I made the right decision not to tell my family straight away. At the time, we were still grieving the loss of my mum, and with Christmas approaching, I didn’t want to add more worry without having any clear answers. After hearing the GP’s initial prognosis, I struggled with some very dark thoughts and simply wasn’t in the right headspace to explain something so serious when I didn’t even have the full picture myself. I waited until after my first appointment with the oncologist before I shared anything. By then, I had more solid information, which helped me feel more emotionally grounded and made the conversation easier to manage.

    The only people I told early on were my CEO and my secretary at work. That was only because they needed to know because I had to start rearranging my diary for medical appointments and adjusting my working hours. I trusted them to keep it confidential, and they were both incredibly supportive, which helped make a very difficult time a little more manageable.

    Deciding when to tell others is such a personal choice. For me, it felt right to wait until I had a better understanding of what I was dealing with. Over the years, I’ve spoken to other suspected cancer patients. Some told their families straight away, others chose to wait, just like I did. It really depends on the individual and the circumstances. There is no right or wrong way, only what feels best for you.

    You also asked how long I’ve had my cancer. I was officially diagnosed in early May 2018, although my symptoms had started the year before. My cancer is in the bone marrow and is considered a rare form, usually seen in men in their seventies or older, so to be diagnosed at 57 as a woman was very unexpected.

    When you see your specialist next Thursday, I really hope it brings you some clarity and reassurance. I remember how different it felt once I finally sat down with someone who truly understood what they were looking at. My oncologist was calm, clear and reassuring. There was no panic, just steady explanations and the words, “There’s a lot we can do.” It was a complete contrast to how my GP had handled things. Her words, “I can’t offer you any guarantees,” still stay with me. I know she probably meant to prepare me, but the way it was said left me frightened and unprepared.

    That is also why I would gently suggest being careful with Google. In the early days, my oncologist advised me not to search for anything online, and I wish I had listened. I thought there were only three types of blood cancer, but there are actually more than 120. Google tends to focus on the most serious or well-known ones and can lead you down a rabbit hole of worst-case scenarios that may not apply at all. The most reliable information will come from your medical team, once they have carried out the necessary tests.

    I also want to add that, over the years, while sitting in waiting rooms, I’ve often spoken with other patients who were anxiously waiting for their test results, upset, scared, and fearing the worst. And many times, I’ve seen those same people come out of their appointments visibly relieved, even in tears of joy and relief, because their tests came back clear.

    Not every lump or unusual symptom leads to bad news, and sometimes the outcome is much better than feared. I found that the fear and the not knowing were the hardest parts for me. I was actually very relieved when I finally got the diagnosis. I’ve been with the same medical team for seven years now, and they truly feel like an extended family to me.

    I know the days leading up to your appointment won’t be easy. Just remember, you’re not alone, myself and other members are here for you whenever you need a bit of support. xx

  • ben2026
    ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    Sorry I not been on and thank you all for your help and messages and I'm sorry wm123 for going through everything you did it much of being hard and exhausting at the time I hope your doing better now then before

    Update I had my meeting today with the nose head and throat team they put me in a biopsy that I had today now I thought I was only having the one but as I have had a cut on my lip for the last 15 weeks the doctor took one look at it and told me he's never seen this level of deep infection or worse on a lip before and did a biopsy on it as well I had the biopsy on my tongue and lip at the same time now all the medication that nums you as complete gone and boy I'm in alot of pain right now with both I also been put down for a scan that as to happen within 2 weeks timeframe as it's spread they told me they don't know if it is or isn't cancer it can be and spread or it can be a really bad infection but from the way they gone ahead with everything so fast telling me it's the worst and it's cancer as time is not on my side as it's all ready spread in only 15 week from the first thing I got what I thought would be nothing and that's the cut on my lip then the lump then my neck lump but I well soon see I'm extremely anxious about it but i hope that I'm in good hands I keep you all updated when I have more information thanks

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,266 Championing

    @ben2026

    Thank you so much for the update. I’m so sorry you’re going through all of this. It sounds incredibly painful, and it’s so hard when life is suddenly turned upside down by illness. I think you’re coping incredibly well, and I really hope the biopsy and scan bring some clear answers soon. Waiting for results is such a horrible, uncertain time. I’ll be thinking of you and hoping for the best in the days ahead, sending you strength. xx

  • ben2026
    ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    Thank you all update if anyone is still interested

    I had my scan today on my neck that took about 20 minutes for them to do the doctor did all my neck and keep going back to one of the place I been getting swollen up most when it started on my throat I never told him about it but I'm guessing he see something or more then likely the hospital had it on the notes but he push deep n abit hard there it's made it swollen up again and I feel pain ever time I drink or try to eat something that is alot harder now I have a my tongue and lip from biopsys my lip as been the painful one as got to stop it getting dry not as easy as you think when you had it on your mind and anything that go on it even a drink is painful lol fun days but joking aside I hope I get the results they did book it in for the 10th of next month but I'm hoping that because they did them a lot sooner then planned that the result be back before that as she z that it's more likely when on the phone today so I let you all know when I do but in the meantime if anyone as had cancer how did you deal with it as it gone now have you still got it are you like me waiting which is the unknown I fine hardest

    I know wm123 as deal with this and I wish her all the best in life btw I'm not sure if you did put it back down you still have it as it gone now and how you feeling now years later then when you 1st fine out about it all

    Wishing everyone all the best please all keep safe and enjoy life at it's fully

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,266 Championing

    @ben2026

    Hello Ben, I just saw your post, and I’m really glad to hear you’ve had your scan done, even though I know it wasn’t easy. Radiographers sometimes notice things during scans that they don’t mention straight away. I remember after one of my CT scans, I saw a group of staff gathered around my images on the screen. When I came out from the changing room, they asked when I’d be seeing my doctor. I asked directly what was going on. At first, they were hesitant to say, but I can be persuasive when I need to be. Eventually, they told me they’d seen an enlarged spleen, which led to a series of follow-up scans and ultrasounds.

    I know how uncomfortable those scans can be, especially when they press on sensitive areas. The pain can linger for hours or even days afterwards. And the waiting for results can be even harder. The uncertainty is mentally and emotionally exhausting. I’ve had my consultant call me as late as 8 p.m. on a Sunday evening, asking me to come in urgently the next day. So, sometimes the hospital does get back to you sooner than expected. Try to stay hopeful.

    I also understand the pain from biopsies, especially since yours were around the lip and tongue. Those areas are incredibly sensitive. I’ve experienced similar pain and swelling from the many bone marrow biopsies I’ve had over the years, and I know how long recovery can take. It’s frustrating, but healing takes time, and it’s important to be patient with yourself.

    When it comes to how others deal with cancer, every journey is different. For me, my hope lay in a stem cell transplant. After months of testing, they found a 10 out of 10 match, and it felt like such a relief. I was really excited, thinking I was going to be healthy again. Unfortunately, the pre-transplant treatment caused major organ failure, and I developed sepsis twice. I ended up in intensive care and never got the chance to go through with the transplant. That was incredibly difficult six week hospital stay, and it felt like I’d lost my last real hope.

    That was four years ago. Now, my cancer is managed. It’s been a long and difficult journey, but I’m still fighting and holding on. I try to live as normally as possible. I still work, socialise, and do my best to keep it all at the back of my mind. That’s how I cope.

    Although the transplant was my only real hope for a cure, and I never received it, I can’t fully express how devastating the loss of that hope was. All my expectations were pinned on it. But I owe my survival to the real heroes in my story, blood, platelet, and plasma donors. Without these incredible, selfless individuals, I wouldn’t be here. Their kindness has saved my life time and again.

    I’ve had more than 365 blood transfusions over the years, and I’m deeply grateful to the platelet donors whose generous donations helped my blood clot, preventing me from bleeding to death, and to the plasma donors, whose donations of proteins and antibodies that supported my immune system when I was too weak to fight infections myself. Without these generous donors, I wouldn’t be here today.

    Ben, I truly hope your results come back soon. The waiting and overthinking are incredibly hard, and I’m wishing you strength during this time. You might not see it now, but there will be brighter days ahead. xx

  • ben2026
    ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    @MW123 thank you for your message I can't even begin to even imagine how you cope going through any of what you did just reading what had to go through was a hard read I'm happy you managed to get by it all doing alot better now even without the transplant you needed please keep up the good fight and I know it's hard to

    As for me yes I'm.trying my best to wait and see but it's the unknown that is more stressful then knowing for me right now as I still being silly looking up people that as had cancer on there tongues and it's not helping but I still look I don't really know why but everyone on there is like end of life with if I don't have this done I be gone in 3 months 6 months 2 years and that's just a couple of them and that's is scary to me but on the other hand I think if it's not cancer then what is it why my body being this way well as a update the lumps I have have got bigger on both my tongue which as now gone over the biopsy cut as they did it under the lump and the other lump on my neck as is now seeable and that's in 6 days as it's bank holiday I not told them as for yet I got a feeling in my guts that I going to get a phone call tomorrow and when I normally have them feeling it happens so we see tomorrow

    I am thankful and grateful that you come across my post and had this conversation with me as not alot of people have

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,266 Championing

    @ben2026

    Hi Ben, I waited a few days before replying, hoping others might share their thoughts too. I know cancer is a difficult subject for many. People often stay quiet, not out of indifference, but because they are unsure what to say or how to say it. That said, I am sure other members are wishing you well and hoping for the best possible outcome.

    I understand how much you are dealing with at the moment. The waiting, the worry, the urge to look things up, I did exactly the same. It is completely natural to want answers when you are feeling scared.

    I really hope you hear back soon with the results of your biopsy and scan. If you feel comfortable, please do let us know how things go. Keep holding on, you’ve got more strength than you think. xx

  • gussiefinknottle1
    gussiefinknottle1 Online Community Member Posts: 24 Connected

    Ben, I think I might know something of the anxiety you’re experiencing but please take a moment to remember that it’s not certain yet and that treatments may be better than they were.

    I don’t want to hijack your post but My partner of nearly 40 years was diagnosed with a rare blood cancer called Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukaemia last year and is having chemotherapy to prevent it from getting worse. He may need a bone marrow transplant in the future if it stops working and is still healthy enough to have it.

    If it turns out that you have cancer and need treatment you might qualify for hospital patient transport so you could look into this, you might get it because of clinical need or because of your mental health as this service is not just for patients who have mobility issues.

    Your current circumstances are very unlikely to be unique and almost everyone will suffer some kind of anxiety under these circumstances. My other half had some EFT sessions and they have helped him after initially being told that he might only have 18 months to live. 12 months on and his blood counts have improved significantly, he hasn’t been to A&E in 7 months and hasn’t needed a weekly platelet transfusion for 6 months. You wouldn’t know he has cancer and he seems relatively healthy right now. Yet last summer he was very poorly and looked like he was waisting away and I genuinely thought that by now he might’ve been getting end of life care. It just shows how wrong the unqualified can be (and I’m one of them)

  • ben2026
    ben2026 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    @gussiefinknottle1 thank you for your message and I'm sorry to hear about your other half I'm happy he is doing alot better now of days and that must of been hard to take being told you only have 12 months to live Im wishing him all the best and long life ahead

    @MW123

    Thank you for your message I appreciate you coming back yes it is the unknown that is the hardest but please can I ask how did your doctor tell you that day because I know on the 10th I'm going to be in a waiting room and being called in and just not sure how they tell me like would they come out with it as it is or talk about how they did the rest and what they seen from them

    What ever I do have as got worse my throat is swollen up alot more I have pains in my chest and now ear and jaw line the lump as got bigger on my tongue and so as the new lump on my shoulder blade so where ever this is it's on the move I been put back on antibiotics but it's not helping so if it is cancer it's moving fast

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,266 Championing

    @ben2026

    Before my diagnosis with myelodysplasia, I spent months in and out of the hospital for blood tests, scans and ultrasounds, each visit another step in the process of ruling out different types of blood cancer. Every appointment to discuss the results left me sitting in the waiting room, bracing myself for life-changing news, and each time I left just as much in the dark as when I arrived.

    When the diagnosis finally came, it was, strangely, a relief. After so long in limbo, simply having a name for my condition put my mind at rest.

    Mindset matters. From the start, I was determined to stay as positive as possible, and thankfully, my oncologist respected that. He was brilliant, not the kind to dwell on worst-case scenarios, nor someone who pushed statistics and grim predictions. The modern world thrives on worst-case outlooks, but that approach is not for me. Sometimes, endlessly analysing bleak possibilities can become a self-fulfilling prophecy, stripping away hope and control. I have always believed that while I cannot control my illness, I can control how I respond to it.

    Ben, the waiting is the hardest part. But you have had your biopsy and scan, so try not to get too caught up in what lies ahead. There are many possible explanations for what you are experiencing. Every journey through sudden, unexplained illness is different, and many outcomes and treatments do not get talked about enough. Right now, you are in the toughest phase, the not knowing, and that, in my opinion, takes the greatest toll. Take care xx

  • gussiefinknottle1
    gussiefinknottle1 Online Community Member Posts: 24 Connected

    Hello again Ben,

    MW123 had a better experience than we did with his consultant.

    My other half got very sick very quickly last February. After being discharged from hospital they did numerous tests and we had an appointment with a Haematologist for the diagnosis, he was lovely and very encouraging, but he referred my OH to a specialist at another hospital who was completely the opposite!

    We came home with the impression that chemotherapy probably wouldn’t stop the cancer getting worse, that a bone marrow transplant was the best option but it was extremely risky and that it had very little chance of working and even if it did work the cancer would probably come back and that it would only give him 5 years more (he’s now 62) and that there was a possibility that he might only have another 18 months! (You can imagine the flood of tears the next day) we have now decided that this consultant is a Ba….. (insert nasty name)


    His response to the chemotherapy seems good and the haematologist is satisfied with his blood counts now,He has gained some weight and looks healthy. He met someone else who has had CMML for the last 3 years and my OH just wants to keep going with the chemotherapy for as long as possible and won’t even talk about a bone marrow transplant (he’s on the autistic spectrum but undiagnosed) I can’t even guess any further what’s going on in his head.

    How long the chemotherapy will continue to suppress the CMML is unknown but hopefully as long as possible with the hope that if it does start to fail that a bone marrow transplant will still be possible.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,266 Championing

    @gussiefinknottle1

    I’m truly sorry you and your OH had such a negative experience with the specialist. It’s so upsetting when you're already dealing with something so heavy, and then you’re faced with a consultant who seems to take away any remaining hope. You deserved better.

    I’ve been very lucky with my own oncologist. He’s absolutely lovely, and his area of expertise is MDS and rare blood cancers. I feel incredibly fortunate to be under his care. It really does make such a difference when you feel supported and understood.

    As someone going through cancer myself, I also understand how incredibly hard it is to support someone else through it. In 2019, I lost my husband to brain cancer. He was only 59, and we had been together for 43 years, since we were both 16. It was a devastating loss. From diagnosis to his passing was just six weeks, which was such a shock.

    His medical team were genuinely hopeful and optimistic. The plan was to remove the tumour, and arrangements for chemo and radiotherapy to follow the surgery were already in place, all before he had even seen the surgeon. Because our local hospital didn’t have the necessary expertise, he was referred to a brain surgeon in another health authority. The team were amazing, always positive and reassuring, with no hint of doom or gloom, just confidence that once the surgery was completed, there would be a clear plan and path forward.

    Sadly, the steroids used to reduce the swelling in his brain weakened his immune system, and he died of pneumonia before he ever received the scheduled operation. But I want to say that the team truly believed they could have extended his life. If he had made it to surgery, I was hopeful it would have extended his life, but it was obviously never meant to be. Throughout both my own cancer journey and my husband’s, the doctors never shared any worst-case scenario stories with us.

    I know just how emotionally overwhelming this journey can be, both from living with cancer myself and from having supported my husband through his short, sudden illness.

    I truly hope your OH continues to respond well to chemo, as I have seen many do over the years, and remains stable for as long as possible. Sending you both strength and warm wishes. xx