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Wibbles
Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,643 Championing

With Israel firing 100 missiles at Iran today and no signs of Ukraine war ending - I believe that the world is on the downwards path to WW3.

If this does happen - our minor issues with PIP will pale into insignificance !!

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  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 109 Empowering
    edited June 13

    The media only ever report on bad things. There's a lot of good in the world. Just that no one ever sees it. Every news article says WW3 this and that because they get clicks out of it. It's in no country's interests to start a World War. No one will profit, no one will win and every country wants both of those things.

    That doesn't make other problems insignificant or minor. Just because there are conflicts in the world that should be taken seriously doesn't mean that the issues we are focusing on here are minor. We still need to focus on it. Just focus on what you're doing today, stay out of the news, go outside if you're able to. Just stay of the news and all newspaper outlets. They are no good for mental health and they all stir the same pot for money to be made.

    Bad news profits, good news doesn't, hence why we only get bad news. I have Anxiety myself and other mental illnesses and I've gone done a spiral with WW3 nonsense so many times where I couldn't leave the house, couldn't sleep, eat, drink or anything so I get the stress that these topics can cause. You can't control what happens in the world but you can control how much news that you consume (which is all doom, gloom and pot-stirring that results in nothing happening).

    I'm on a Facebook group where they debunk a lot of this stuff called Doomsday Debunked and they really know their stuff and put everyone's bad thoughts into perspective. They've helped me a lot to be able to get out of that spiral I was in to be able to live my life again. Just give them a read through or something. So many people on there, pretty much every post, is asking the same thing that you are and there are people debunking them in the comments. The owner of the group has his own blog posts.

    We are not the closest to WW3 that we've been in, I'd say we're not even close to that. Just turn off the news for a week or 2, focus on today and do something you enjoy whatever that may be. I do want to end this by saying that I know I can't change your mind or beliefs on the topic, or any topic for the matter and nor would I want to. If me posting this comment doesn't do anything for you then I apologise. If it has helped or had a positive outcome for you then I'm glad I could help.

    If I honestly had ยฃ1 for every time the WW3 word was used in the news, I'd be the richest guy on this amazing planet.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,676 Championing

    Looks that way

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,363 Championing

    @Calflye I consider it important to keep as informed about world events as possible. I couldn't see myself burying my head in the sand. It is of course not healthy to dwell on the suffering we are powerless to meliorate.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,363 Championing

    Neither of my daughters are going to have children, and I am glad for it quite frankly.

    There is the fact that if they had a son, he very well might have MD like me, or even more severe, but that is not their only reason; the climate emergency, never ending wars etc play a part.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,363 Championing
    edited June 13

    Well apparently the ICC is only for Africans and Putin. I can't bear to look it up, but was the view of a very Trumpy Senator.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 1,436 Trailblazing

    I understand; my reasons for not having wanted to bring children into the world. I'm not oblivious to the goodness of so many - I like to think the majority - but sadly, I see exactly where it's going.

    I can understand people who do bury their heads in the sand (especially if it's to protect their mental wellbeing) but it's not for me. I personally just don't like to feel complicit by my silence; a silent onlooker I won't be, I believe that those who can speak out, should and have a responsibility to our fellow humans to do so.

    There's a quote, I think it's... the only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing.

    BTW, my comment earlier about 'too little too late', I don't mean about getting the aid into Gaza, more about getting peace in the the wider region. They should get the aid in and stop the atrocities we're seeing before our eyes of starvation and the inhumanity. I'm glad to see the tiny little starving girl, Siwar, had been evacuated out to Jordan.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,363 Championing

    The wee girl's plight was/is extremely hard to witness. It pains me that the orchestrators of these crimes will likely never face justice.

  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 109 Empowering

    Yes that is important however there is a difference between staying up to date with world events and consuming bad news constantly. The media get paid from bad news. Some outlets are quite good in remaining somewhat neutral or honest. Newspapers like The Guardian, The Sun, Daily Mail and all those ones are so dishonest.

    If it's consuming news through news channels like BBC news, ITV and actual channels like that, I'd be more inclined to follow it.

    I don't bury my head in the sand, I just go to sources that are more honest than others (of course not entirely unbiased, no newspaper is unbiased) but as you say, it's unhealthy to spiral. When there's topics like WW3, it is so easy for people like me to spiral so far down mentally as I obsess and would not be able to do anything when stressed about matters like these. However, I'm now on top of that after learning that the hard way with my own mental health and I have my own rules I have to follow for the sake of just staying sane. I'm not denying that there are very real issues in the world, of course there are. But when people talk about WW3, they often think of conventional or even nuclear war. Nuclear weapons and the threats of their use are a deterrence and it is in no-one's interests, not even the crazy higher-ups to use them. Trade wars and cyber attacks, I mean I wouldn't rule out but definitely not in the use of conventional or nuclear war at this point in time.

    We can't control matters like these and that's pretty much what every human wants to do. Control is something in our nature. If we have no control then it's like a threat to us where we have to be cautious.

    I just see the same pattern too. Every week, it is the same thinly-veiled threats of "x country needs to prepare for WW3, everyone should prepare". Preparation is great but you're most likely going to be preparing for a thunderstorm, flood or other issues we get.

    The main thing I'm trying to say is just know the source of the information. There's websites where you can see how biased and factual your media outlets are.

    Sorry if my message came across as patronising by the way. I've had people across various social media forums say my writing comes across as patronising, I don't intend on my message sounding that way. I just write weirdly I think.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 1,436 Trailblazing

    Oh isn't it just, unbearably sad ๐Ÿ˜ฅ๐Ÿ˜ญ. I must be naive to be shocked at the levels of atrocity and constant bombardment of innocents, who'd have thought it in the 21st century; civilised and enlightened society... nah, we've learnt absolutely nothing/zilch.

    I think you're probably right, sadly, that they won't face justice but I hope they will. Even some of the evil perpetrators of WW2 did eventually.

    PS I've still not finished my book. I'm going back to it Sunday or Monday, once the thunderstorms have been and gone! Only 100 pages to go ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ™„

  • Wheeled_Weapon
    Wheeled_Weapon Online Community Member Posts: 368 Empowering

    I don't watch or read the news. It's not sticking my head in the sand, it's because the news now is an utter dirge of sensationalist horse-s%#t.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,363 Championing
    edited June 14

    And to think of the idealistic young men, such as 'Eric Arthur Blair' aka George Orwell, who nearly a century ago, went off to fight fascism in Spain. What's changed?

    PS Those who faced trial at Nuremberg, they weren't backed to the hilt by Uncle Sam. That is the difference that pretty much guarantees their escaping justice. Very unfair and so frustrating for the rest of the world.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,676 Championing

    Yes my daughter 31 this year she doesn't follow media ect so she really doesn't know what's happening god I wish I didn't I fear for her future even her job will be taken by AI eventually I feel true despair

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,643 Championing

    Iran is now threatening UK, US and France - if we become involved on Israels side !!

    I just hope that Starmer keeps out - and leaves any aid to US

    Last time the two countries had a spat - UK sent in fighter aircraft to shoot down Iranian drones !

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 1,436 Trailblazing

    We have to have hope @Catherine21. I can remember feeling despair, as did tens of thousands of others, in my teens when I was a member of CND and the cruise missiles were being sited at Greenham Common in Berkshire. My dad was really strict and wouldn't let me go and protest ๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿ™„ (I should have just gone ๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ˜…).

    My point being, I wouldn't have imagined then the Treaty that was signed by Reagan and Gorbachov removing the long range missiles by the late 80s/early 90s and the closure of the base; the end of the Cold War or the reunification of Germany.

    I just struggle to think of any leaders at the moment who will work towards de-escalation in the Middle East. Maybe it will take other Middle Eastern countries who are more moderate. But I try and keep hope, for all of us but especially for the younger generations. You take care Catherine ๐Ÿซ‚.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,109 Pioneering

    Don't worry, AI only took jobs from bad ornament artists.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,676 Championing

    Thankyou santosha hope you and doggies well how they finding this heat ๐Ÿฅต I brought air conditioning unit for mine ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,676 Championing

    Do you think if I identify as a plant pot I'd be left alone

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,363 Championing

    Heat? Lol, been pouring down all day where I am, had thunder too. Was nice yesterday though.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 1,436 Trailblazing

    Air con unit for your dogs, aawww that's lovely. I keep having to move my fan from living room to the bedroom each morning and night. I gave them all a bit of a groom earlier, they only tolerate c 10 mins each. No thunder yet hoping it's moved off somewhere else! I hope you have a lovely evening. 7pm to 1230am bbc2 is hits from 1985 but I'm conflicted as C5 10 till 12 1974 documentary.