Stephen timms said over state pension age aint affected by cuts, is that still the same?
Hi stephen timms said the over state pensioners due to the cuts aint affected? Is that still the same
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Hi @emma85, At the moment we don't have all the details as nothing has been confirmed. The last I saw was that they are now considering in more detail how people over state pension age will be affected by the 4 point rule:
Written questions and answers - Written questions, answers and statements - UK Parliament
I'm afraid I don't have any more solid information at the moment, but I hope we'll learn more soon.
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There is a line in the bill which looks like people over pension age may be excluded from the 4 point rule.
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SSo They might not be affected?
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Subsection 4appears to be a "get-out clause" to allow the SoS to make special provisions for particular groups of people. They almost certainly have pension age PIP claimants in mind here. The paragraph actually says:"to make different provision for different cases or purposes (including different provision for persons of different ages);"
So, for example, it might allow the SoS to decide that the 4-point rule will never apply to any person at or over pension age, who is already in receipt of PIP daily living in November 2026. This would give pension age claimants an exemption, but it's interesting that this is not being put into the Act itself.
The subsection also allows the secretary of state to provide for "a person to exercise discretion in dealing with any matter".
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Sorry I don't understand?sorry to be a pain
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@emma85 They might not be affected. It all depends on the interpretation of what @bellatango has pointed out. Not worded in the bill very well.
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Ok thank u.
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Hi is their any updates about the over state pensioners are they affected by the changes?or a they impacted by them if they put a request in about their change of circumstance?
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Stephen Timms is a disgrace, He was having a meeting with some disabled activist and one collapsed on the floor, he just got up ,walked around her and left the room. He shouldn't be disabled minister. Richard Burgon has been campaigning against these cuts, he would be better
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TThat's Really bad.what about over state pensioners are they affected?
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Hi @emma85, unfortunately, we still don't have many facts about this. When the bill came out a couple of days ago it included a part about age which bellatango was talking about a few posts up. That may mean that people of pension age aren't affected by the PIP 4 point rule, but there still hasn't been any official confirmation of this yet.
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I understand. But it's not very fair on the people that needs the money to live on to help them on a day to day basis
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I have been reading it about the over state pension age that were born before 1960 aint affected by the proposed cuts.
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HHe Would be much better mr burgon would be
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https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/troubling-picture-of-timms-emerges-from-meeting-with-campaigners
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HHe Shouldn't do that.really I don't know what's going on tbh I just feel sorry for these disabled people
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Can you see it going through?
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WWhen Will affect people.is it there next review date? Starting from november 2026
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No you're not, it's from the benefits and work websites, it's been on other things. I only just come back on this forum, and once again you are making critical snide remarks about my posts , yet again. So I'm leaving for good. When I have put things in the past you ,your keyboard warrior have belittle me. Good picking on a woman . I have had **** from people in my life treating me like ****, so I be damned if I'm letting you do it to me. This forum is supposed to be for discussion. Free speech, but you seem to think only your opinion matters
Well goodbye
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Dear Andi, I hope you will reconsider. I know you miss Strawberry and I'm sure she will return. Members are hot and bothered and stressed with all the benefit changes. DWP plans and proposals aren't new, it's just that the media (and the disabled community) stopped talking about the benefits fiasco as it was known 10+ years ago.
Is Stephen Timms worth you leaving the forum for? Certainly not!
Is one member worth you leaving the forum for? No.
Ask yourself how important is this misunderstanding or any difference of opinion. I haven't seen any pictures of that event and I think Ranald was curious to see one but I think there are only written reports.
From my limited knowledge of him to date, I would say this guy is more respectful towards women than most and I doubt he intended you to feel harassed. I am not trying to dismiss how you feel right now but trying to put this into perspective.
Breaks from the forum are necessary for me quite often. While you were away, the community has had fallings out which is not new. I reported a member recently and Scope ironed things out. That's an easier way of dealing with a post or member that upsets you and less final than what you've written above. Usually it's a combination of events which causes us to lose our rag and I've had many public meltdowns I regret!
Our strength lies in being able to come back from that and you can. There is support here and many autistic women who understand the pain of not being heard, seen or believed.
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