Urgent question about Conditionality Earnings Threshold policy

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Stickman
Stickman Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering
in Universal Credit (UC)

What does this mean? Does it mean that I'm going to have to look for work? I've recently filled in a PW1 form as I receive money from my music.

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  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,795 Championing

    If you get LCWRA then the threshold does not apply in your case.

  • Stickman
    Stickman Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    I get ESA and PIP, I don't understand.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,795 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1040215#Comment_1040215

    Ok, you have posted this in the Universal Credit section so I assumed you got UC.

    The CET is only for Universal Credit as far as I'm aware, not ESA.

  • Stickman
    Stickman Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    OK, I have recently applied for Universal Credit having been on ESA and PIP. I got my migration letter a couple of weeks back. I've read about the Conditionality Earnings Threshold policy.

    What does this mean? Does it mean that I'm going to have to look for work? I've recently filled in a PW1 form as I receive money from my music.

    I phoned the DWP and they said that I could earn upto £195 without losing any benefit when I was claiming ESA and PIP.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,795 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1040267#Comment_1040267

    Ok, if you're in the Support Group for ESA now, then you will be automatically put into the LCWRA group of UC after migration.

    As you will be in the LCWRA group of UC, the CET does not apply to you. That is only for low earners without health conditions.

    Regarding earnings, UC works differently to ESA. There is no earnings limit on UC. If you have LCWRA and get Housing Element then you can earn £411 per month without losing anything. If you earn more than £411 in one month, then the excess creates a deduction of 55p per £1.

    You will need to declare your earnings to UC in the online journal on the final day of your assessment period each month.

    If you will still be getting New Style ESA in addition to UC, then you will still have to stay under the permitted work threshold for that.

    Earnings do not matter for PIP at all because that is totally non-means tested.

  • Stickman
    Stickman Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering
    edited June 29

    I'm confused by this - I take it that I am OK if I earn up to £411 a month and not lose any benefits? But I still need to declare my earnings if I earn UNDER £411, is that right? Excuse me for being a bit slow on this.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,795 Championing
    edited June 30
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1043369#Comment_1043369

    Yes, you need to declare your earnings at the end of every assessment period, even if they are £0 for that period.

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