Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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You raise some excellent points. Many have criticised the speed and lack of proper consultation around the bill, especially since the consultation period isn’t even finished yet, but the proposals are already being debated and pushed through Parliament.
There are also widespread doubts about the reliability of the government’s promises, as financial pressures and changing priorities have led to policy reversals in the past. So, questioning the timing, transparency, and trustworthiness of these reforms is entirely reasonable and echoed by many others following this issue closely.
I have no trust in this government. This bill should never go through, but too many MPs seem content to support it as long as it keeps their disabled constituents quiet for now. It’s clear the priority is balancing the books, not protecting those who need it most. With the way things are being rushed and promises keep shifting, there’s every chance another fiscal crisis will lead to yet another U-turn.
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@worried33 Thank you for that,I was hoping that was the case.
Bad enough I've ,and I know others have uc migration due,plus I've a pip review next yr,so guessing I'll be getting the form later this year or early next. 🙄🙁
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My MP has emailed all disabled constituents who contacted her about the welfare reforms, inviting us to a public meeting tomorrow morning. I plan to attend and raise similar points with her. I’ve also reserved a seat for the following Saturday to discuss the recent vote, as she wants to give her constituents a chance to reflect and consider next steps together.
I know some members on the other thread were surprised I was bothering to attend, but for me this isn’t over. I believe it’s important to keep the door open for discussion and to continue advocating for our rights and concerns. I urge everyone to contact their MPs if they have concerns before the vote. Personally, I would like to see the bill mothballed, but it seems many are satisfied with the current concessions. Still, I can’t help but feel there may be a sting in the tail after the vote, when it’s too late to act.
Staying engaged and vocal is essential, especially when so much is at stake for current and future disabled people and benefit claimants.
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Hi.
As the other thread is now closed, I reply to you over here.
There are few ways to read paywalled articles, but I believe this one is the simplest. And let me make it simpler to understand it.
Cut or copy the link below and paste it in Google search box and press enter and a page with its own search box will open. Then go to the article you wanted to read and copy or cut its address or the URl and paste it in the search box that has opened.
In short and in visual, URL is where the arrow in this video is pointing at, which is the address of the webpage. Every page or webpage on the internet has its unique address.
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MW did you happen to read the guardian as it first reported on the concessions? I ask because I read they were looking into making it easier for those with multiple conditions but I haven’t heard anything of it since . I’m really in a bad way right now and brain fogs crazy but I’m sure I read that .
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Just wondering would the new rules and tighter conditions apply to the claimants now when their renewals for reassessment are due?
If this is the case then nobody is safe as many are only three year periods?
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You’re right, when The Guardian first reported on the government’s concessions to the welfare reforms, there was mention of proposals to make things easier for people with multiple or complex conditions. This was part of the discussion around softening some of the harsher elements of the reforms, especially after considerable pushback from disability groups and campaigners.
However, since those initial reports, there hasn’t been much detail or follow up coverage about how these changes would work in practice, or whether they will be included in the final version of the bill.
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The guardian as it first announced the concessions. If you read it it mentions making it easier for those with multiple conditions. Has anyone heard anymore of this
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I found it in my post from the forum
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Thats great news, the sort of thing I would love to attend.
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Thank you passerby . I only use iPhone so I don’t think I get google up like that
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I must admit, I was genuinely surprised by the invitation, particularly given how reserved her previous responses to my concerns had been. It landed completely out of the blue on Wednesday evening, with the first meeting set for tomorrow just three day's notice. Why she chose to schedule meetings so late in the day remains a mystery, but as they say, better late than never.
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Guardian , can someone screenshot it please 🙏
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I know it seems unfair that future claimants will be assessed under the new rules, this happened to me with ESA I applied and was eligible and that is when I had to claim UC and LCWRA, I would have been on ESA old style years ago had I been advised , but I never was , but things are working out for me now . It is awful for new claimants , but it is what it is and we shouldn't feel guilty , God knows we've suffered since March and the green paper .
So as far as I know those of us who are already claiming PIP and UC/LCWRA nothing changes and future reviews will not be reviewed under the 4 point system , we remain under this one .
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Just to let you know that I'll start filling in my migration form tonight and will submit it tomorrow, as today is my payment date. People say that the best date is one day after your payment date. I'll let you know in detail as soon as I submit it, so you will know what's waiting for you.
And as you've advised me, I'll start planning for claiming PIP from Monday, starting with writing to my GP, as it can take months to see her, even though my GP surgery is less than 10 minutes walk away from my home.
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It's very disappointing that they're not even concessions but lip service.
What have you understood with regards to people like us, who are only on LCWRA, in terms of assessment
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On the guardian they’re reporting rebels are hoping to start a new amendment on Monday. I can’t link it passerby as I couldn’t work out how 😂
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I've just read it. But with only 50 MPs, as committee chairs now seem to be happy with the so-called concessions, which I call lip service.
I use a PC and the Guardian does not have a traditional paywall that blocks access to its online content, as it rather relies on reader support through voluntary contributions and subscriptions to fund its journalism.
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It comes up as a subscription and doesn’t let me read without it. How many would need to add their name passerby ?
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It depends more on whether the speaker will select it than the number of MPs adding their names on to it at this stage, even though it would still frighten Starmer. The number of MPs would be more relevant when the amendment is selected by the speaker of the house for a vote and their vote is needed.
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